Let's help some guys/gals get their first archery elk!

Last year was my first time out west in CO. Full DIY, did lots of research and talked to as many folks as I could that had experience. Got out there and never heard a single bugle. Overnight I’d hear activity but as soon as the light hit everything was silent. Tried different areas and nothing. Going to try again this year and will stay out in the woods for the trip. My simple plan as of now is if I don’t hear anything, keep walking


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Anybody have any western washington elk tips?

I just picked up archery because I was introduced to a bow 3 weeks ago and I was hooked. Already have put in upwards of 800 arrows through the $120 bear cruzer I bought and have a new bow on the way. Really excited about the much better elk opportunity, always kinda knew my chances were slim to get into elk in Washington while being a rifle hunter.

I have a couple of spots in multiple areas where I’ve seen lots of sign, have 1 spot within 20 minutes of my house where I have elk on trail cameras and know they frequent. Right now I plan to keep checking my camera and having bait down monthly to confirm they are still frequenting. Then when season comes I have an 8 mile loop picked out that I will be hiking near by to get into them. What are the thoughts?

On another note Do your tactics change for Rosies vs Rockies?
No experience on Rosies vs Rockies...but would guess many of the same principles apply. Keep wind right, be proficient with weapon, look for areas with less pressure, etc. Will you be chasing with Archery this year?

You are absolutely not being lazy.

THE key is to be HUNTING at first light and last light. 95% of elk movement is at that time. So make sure that you are hunting those golden hours.

But it is very hard to do that for many days in a row. You will go into serious sleep deprivation. A midday nap is the way to allow you to really hunt when it really matters.
Being out there is a great tip...even napping in the woods is better than all the spend travel time to/from camp...if you are near fresh sign stay in that area and listen.

Last year was my first time out west in CO. Full DIY, did lots of research and talked to as many folks as I could that had experience. Got out there and never heard a single bugle. Overnight I’d hear activity but as soon as the light hit everything was silent. Tried different areas and nothing. Going to try again this year and will stay out in the woods for the trip. My simple plan as of now is if I don’t hear anything, keep walking


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You're on the right track. I got my bull last year 100% because I stayed up above treeline past dark and just listened. I heard 2 faint bugles over the backside of mountain. I had zero plans to hunt that area that week. I drove around the mountain the next morning and made my way up into that basin and shot that bull at 3:05. They might not talk during daylight, but if you can get a pinpoint on one during dark you will have already increased your odds drastically the next day just being in the vicinity. Good Luck this year!
 
Hey Matt, I'm going back in 5 weeks time to my usual haunt, this will be my 8th trip for Elk, we keep getting i to them, but the stars just ain't lined up yet. We'll be there 2days before opening day, and then check out the previous haunts, before packing everything in on our backs, and if there's one thing I've learnt, it's don't leave elk to find elk.
Hope to catch up soon.
 
Hey Matt, I'm going back in 5 weeks time to my usual haunt, this will be my 8th trip for Elk, we keep getting i to them, but the stars just ain't lined up yet. We'll be there 2days before opening day, and then check out the previous haunts, before packing everything in on our backs, and if there's one thing I've learnt, it's don't leave elk to find elk.
Hope to catch up soon.

Dave - Can't believe season is that close!
You guys are so close I can feel it...keep that wind right and sneak right in on them!

Good Luck!
 
Got out there and never heard a single bugle.

Overnight I’d hear activity but as soon as the light hit everything was silent.
Hang on, those two things don't add up. If you're hearing activity at night, those elk don't vanish come daybreak. Hearing elk before daylight still means you're on elk, and that's 90% of the battle. I hunt a lot of elk that will go wild all night and shut up almost the second it's shooting light, but it's very rare that they're completely silent all day. It's really, really easy to miss though.

A few things can happen that you'll need to figure out. First is, how far are they moving between night and day? Did they actually stop calling at daybreak or did they just push up the hill or across the drainage, and you lost them? Elk can call a lot when they're out feeding at night, and the bull has to run around tending his cows. Same when they're moving up a hill and he's tending the back of the herd like a border collie. Don't expect to call them in, even if they're really responsive, just focus on tailing them and watching the wind.

They tend to shut up hard once they hit a bedding area, but he'll almost always let off one or two bugles from his bed by late morning. It's rarely in response to anything, and if he does "respond" to your location bugle it might take 10 to 30 minutes before you get a weak answer. The only way to catch these is either pure dumb luck, or to stay on them from daybreak, figure out roughly where they're bedded, and then lurk quietly nearby for a few hours. Even calves and cows will stand up out of their beds periodically and chatter, walk around, snack, and make enough noise to give their position away.
My simple plan as of now is if I don’t hear anything, keep walking
That's always a good start. If you're in good shape, you can always just cover ground and wait until you find the elk that are fired up and responsive. Personally, I don't like leaving elk to find other elk, not without feeling like I gave it a full attempt first. If you're on elk before first light, I would really focus on those.

Tracking the herd is even a better start than just leaving for new elk. They were there, they went somewhere, you can follow tracks and catch up. Figure out what bedding cover is like in this area and you can start to have some idea where they might be going. From there, you've got all day to work potential areas. It gets easier if you start to really learn one area and know where they might be headed.

If you're hunting OTC tags on public land, I don't think you can afford to be picky and leave a herd of elk just because they're mostly quiet during the day. That's the vast majority of elk I encounter, until you catch them on a lucky day where a cow is in heat and they're all going nuts.
 
Thank you to everyone who has contributed. This thread has been a great read over the last few evenings. I have an AZ Elk tag for early September and this is giving me a lot of help for scouting and planning.
 
No experience on Rosies vs Rockies...but would guess many of the same principles apply. Keep wind right, be proficient with weapon, look for areas with less pressure, etc. Will you be chasing with Archery this year?


Being out there is a great tip...even napping in the woods is better than all the spend travel time to/from camp...if you are near fresh sign stay in that area and listen.


You're on the right track. I got my bull last year 100% because I stayed up above treeline past dark and just listened. I heard 2 faint bugles over the backside of mountain. I had zero plans to hunt that area that week. I drove around the mountain the next morning and made my way up into that basin and shot that bull at 3:05. They might not talk during daylight, but if you can get a pinpoint on one during dark you will have already increased your odds drastically the next day just being in the vicinity. Good Luck this year!
Yes sir, I’ll be sticking with rifle deer and bear but really excited for archery elk. You can take antlerless here in my local unit and a cow elk would be a fine consolation prize being there are few bulls in my unit. Went out last weekend and confirmed my spot and got some elk on camera. Pretty fired up.
 
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