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32s. The waist is perfect.What size are they?
The waist is perfect. I don’t want a it bunching up under a belt.I size up in kutanas.
I think we have different ones. These are the “stretch” lightweight pants. These don't have any waterproof panels.They stretch, or the old ones did. I know they recently updated with water proof paneling. Mine fit the same out of the wash but fit perfect after moving around a bit.
Yea you are right, I didn’t realize they have both. I have 3 pairs of the stretch, what I said was in respect to those, not the new.I think we have different ones. These are the “stretch” lightweight pants. These don't have any waterproof panels.
I really want to like these pants. The only issue is how tight they are in the thighs. Do these stretch out at all? I swear you can see my panty line. I may just have to go back to Eddie Bauer or something. It’s tough to find good pants for bigger legs.
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Valid and assessable on the low rise waist. My whale tail might show. I looked at those terrains - looks like no hip or thigh vents. The Frontier Lite does have them though. Have you tried those?Ditto; I really wanted to like them too, but they make the legs "skinny" with a low rise waist using NO stretch material. The only stretch in these pants is in the name.
Try the Born Primitive Terrain pants. Lots of stretch with better layout than Zion's.
How does the color change the fit? I’m not married to a color. Fit is more important.I have this same issue. 34 waste is perfect, but the thighs are way too tight. Sizing up to 36 the waste is way too big and the thighs are perfect. And different colors fit differently as well.
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How does the color change the fit? I’m not married to a color. Fit is more important.
Valid and assessable on the low rise waist. My whale tail might show. I looked at those terrains - looks like no hip or thigh vents. The Frontier Lite does have them though. Have you tried those?