Kimber Montana vs. Tikka T3x Superlite vs. Savage 16 LWH (308)

[JWP58]

Have you had any other people shoot either of these guns?

 

[mtwarden]

agreed, with 8 shot groups and small barrels- which shots came first is a piece of info I'd be very interested in

 

[16Bore]

Same rifle, same scope, same rings, same ammo, same rest, same results.

My first move would be to throw the scope off the highest bridge I could find.

 

[luke moffat]

Same rifle, same scope, same rings, same ammo, same rest, same results.

My first move would be to throw the scope off the highest bridge I could find.

The scope seems to do fine with the Tikka....

 

[rileybassman]

When I had the action out of the stock, the stock looked good, the mag box didn't bind, and I torqued everything back down to proper values.

I have no idea what it could be.

If your action screws are out, and your barreled action is sitting in the stock, do you have much play or wiggle room?

 

[Rorschach]

I wish! They were all over the place, unfortunately.

Curious if you noted shot order? If those 5 in the center on both the Fusions and GMM were the first five, then you've got a pretty fine shooting rifle (3/4" if I'm looking right) ...at least until it heats up. If those out hits were earlier in the string then there's definitely some randomness going on.

 

[mtwarden]

I wish! They were all over the place, unfortunately.

well so much for that theory

 

[Rorschach]

I didn't pay special attention to it, but I don't remember any. And, as noted, when I torqued the action screws, the torque went to final value in an all but imperceptible amount of rotation; it got tight fast.

If your action screws are out, and your barreled action is sitting in the stock, do you have much play or wiggle room?

 

[rileybassman]

I didn't pay special attention to it, but I don't remember any. And, as noted, when I torqued the action screws, the torque went to final value in an all but imperceptible amount of rotation; it got tight fast.

Understood - a good bedding job will prevent slop even without screws... there can be minimal movement, even with screws.

Just a thought.

 

[16Bore]

Kimbers really do suck.

Kimber Montana 300 WM - from box to range in 24 hours. | Hunting Rifles | 24hourcampfire

 

[Rorschach]

Enough.

Never said, nor did anyone assert in this thread (to my current knowledge) that it couldn't be made to shoot better using a handload. That just wasn't the assertion being put to the test.

So, that post says nothing that addresses anything in this thread.

Kimbers really do suck.

Kimber Montana 300 WM - from box to range in 24 hours. | Hunting Rifles | 24hourcampfire

 

[aclawrence]

Twas a pointless post.

 

[16Bore]

Sometimes you've got to put race fuel in a race car.


And sometimes you gotta know how to drive one.

 

[realunlucky]

Some people know everything while everyone else knows nothing it's the awesomeness of the internet.

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[16Bore]

How does your Kimber shoot?

 

[hunting1]

Kimbers are junk! And mine is in .308 so it won't kill anything either.

It died this year laughing at my Kimber.

 

[Rorschach]

hunting - What load was this that you were shooting? Factory? Hand-load?

Kimbers are junk! And mine is in .308 so it won't kill anything either.

It died this year laughing at my Kimber.

 

[Mtnboy]

T3x Superlite .308 box stock.

Barrel not cleaned in I don't know how many shots.

Probably a dozen shots down the tube in 20 minutes or so.

Factory ammo, Federal Premium 180gr Trophy Bonded Tip

100yds

Good enough for me.

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[GKPrice]

T3x Superlite .308 box stock.

Barrel not cleaned in I don't know how many shots.

Probably a dozen shots down the tube in 20 minutes or so.

Factory ammo, Federal Premium 180gr Trophy Bonded Tip

100yds

Good enough for me.

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the kind of accuracy I've had with so many Tikkas (except that 300 wsm and the 338 AND the 2 7mmRM's with HS issues, that's out of ?? many) I tried to backtrack on this thread to count how many members suggested, recommended or mentioned he should get a Tikka superlight 308 - Apparently he wanted to get pissed at me because he didn't listen to all the others ...... I've had 3 .308 superlights, all T3 (pre "X") and they all were tack drivers and were talked out of my ownership and into buddy's hands (and I hear about it a lot) Don't really know what to say other than I "should" have kept my mouth (fingers) shut - I STILL have the Hunter in 6.5 CM that I cut down for my GS, it has one cow notch on it but hasn't shot a sub 2" group with a HUNTING bullet to this day - Kimber "might" get their act together some day, truly hope they do .......

 

[mtnwrunner]

Well, once again, I am totally impressed with the tikka t3 lite......this one was actually a t3x in 300 wsm that I am developing a load for one of my hunting partners last Sunday. These were the very first rounds shot out of it. I just picked a load from the berger manual with the 185 grain and reloder 17. Both 62 and 60 grains shot the same size groups. I think it has some promise.........

Randy.