Killing Elk- Caliber vs Caliber

[marshland_max]

I'm going to jump in again. I personally think there's no better balance for a multiple purpose rifle that offers good long range big game performance and reduced recoil than the 270 Winchester. You can load it light or load it with a high b.c. 150 GR bullet at 2800 fps and wallah you got a 600 yard elk rifle and something that's a joy to shoot and practice with. Also every bit of this is available world wide over the counter as factory ammo. Ya'll are making this way to complicated lol.



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[204guy]

treillw, TBAC is pretty conservative with their min barrel/thread specs not that I disagree. But there are a bunch of guys out there running .30s with 1/2-28.
Where you shooting under a roofed bench. I always double up with muffs and plugs when shooting unsuppressed, and usually still wear 1 shooting suppressed. While breaks certainly do reduce recoil something rarely discussed is the concussion they put on your whole body, it can put some stress on you.

 

[Huntingpreacher]

The VAST majority of what you read about “killing ability” of various rounds has absolutely nothing to do with facts or science, and everything to do with conjecture, old wives tales, and “grand pappy said”.




Bullets kill by destroying tissue. The more tissue destroyed, the faster things die.


Picture the wound channel in 3D. Three things matter in the big picture-

Placement of the wound.

Depth of the wound.

Width of the wound.



The first is controlled by you. The easier the rifle is to shoot, the better placement will be. The second and third items are the bullet construction. It is possible for a 300 grain 338cal bullet to create a wider wound at the same depth, or a deeper wound at the same width the with a 200 grain 30cal, and the same with a 200gr 30cal over a 147gr 6.5mm. It’s all bullet construction and the type of upset that each bullet differs in. I.E.- it is possible for a .224 cal bullet to create a bigger wound, and consequently kill faster than a 300 magnum depending on bullet.



Screw the magnums. You, learning to shoot at distance need well setup rifles and serious constructive round counts. The best favor you could do yourself is to get a good, fast twist 223 in a lightish rifle, good scope, cases of 77gr match ammo, and try your darndest to shoot it out before next year. Then, get a light recoiling, easy to shoot rifle (6.5 Creedmoor) set up similarly to hunt anything bigger than deer.

I second this. First question to ask is this, are you going to make your decision based off the laws of physics or anecdotal opinions? If you make your decision based off physics, find a good ballistics app, plug in the variables (bc, muzzle velocity, etc) and pick the round that appeals to you the most, keeping in mind that more powder capacity generally equals more recoil. You'll get a whole lot of "I've killed X number of elk and from my experience the X caliber is the best." I would avoid that advice as it does not take into consideration your individual situation. You're on the right track in researching the actual ballistics. Stay on that track and you'll arrive at the caliber that is best for you.

 

[Whisky]

Not a bad idea. I might have to look at the barrel bending stuff a little closer.

Thunderbeast said they wouldn't honor their warranty if something happened to the suppressor and they didn't put their brake on the gun - just for information.

So, I assume that would only apply to their quick detach (CB) mounted suppressors, which screw on to a brake. The direct threaded suppressors don't mount on to muzzle brakes.

 

[tmwtrfwler]

I wish everybody had the opportunity to try out and hunt with a suppressor. For me anyways they take recoil and flinching 100% out of the equation. I plain shoot a lot better with them. Well worth the added weight and length if you are able to swing it. I also saw two animals die this year that would not have happened had the shooters rifle not been suppressed. After some (unfortunate) misses, the animals stayed put long enough for adequate follow up shots.

Now, I would be real curious to screw an Ultra 7 on the end of that Model 92 300wm and take her for a spin. I think it would be fairly pleasant to shoot. And carry.

my 300win mag is suppressed. I have a Crux can and they threaded the barrel on my nosler m48 liberty and installed one of their breaks on it. it's a dream to shoot.

 

[Stickman]

My 300 WinMag does a good job on elk. I'm partial to the Barnes LRX's. Lights out pretty quick...