gelton
WKR
The two packs that you mentioned are both made in Asia and both of them are ~ $600 bags...I wouldn't call it drinking kool-aid to spend $100-$200 more to support completely sourced and made in the USA products but to each their own.I personally found the Kifaru gear overpriced in general. This is not rocket science guys. The designs are mostly from previous ideas that they simply copied, which Aaron Snyder admits to (Dana designs, etc.). While I do not use Mystery Ranch in the backcountry, I think they are better priced, but I could be wrong. I sold my Kifaru pack and went to the Sitka Mountain Hauler, and LOVE that. But each person has their own preferences and body style.
I tried the Kifaru kool-aid and spit it out. Good luck gentlemen.