Kifaru Sawtooth vs Seek Outside Cimarron.

[Aussie-bowman]

Hey guys, I'm back again looking for some opinions on a shelters.

I was reading through an earlier thread and I discovered the Seek Outside Cimarron. Before I had discovered this shelter I had my heart set on buying a Sawtooth with an 18" smith stove. However once I got onto the Seek Outside website I say that the Cimarron was literally half the price of the sawtooth. Now I'm wondering is the sawtooth worth the extra money? I will be taking which ever I buy to the NZ west coast next may hunting tahr and possibly to CO to hunt elk.

I am a gear junkie and love to know the pros and cons of everything I look at purchasing and obviously it is a massive investment into the sawtooth (the conversion rate to Australian dollars makes it like $1600-$1700 for me), but if it is worth it I wouldn't have an issue in spending the extra money.

Keep in mind also that I am completely new to the whole floorless shelter thing so even the most basic of pointers will probably be new to me!

Thanks guys!!

 

[rbljack]

Im following this one as well. Curious to hear what people have to say about this shelter vs the sawtooth.

 

[Will_m]

^ x2. Sure is a huge price difference.

 

[Aussie-bowman]

Yeah but if the sawtooth is going to be that much more functional, durable etc then i wouldn't mind spending the money, also the seek outside one you have to pay extra for the stove jack which i didn't realise when i posted the initial thread. However still waaaay cheaper.

 

[oldgoat]

In that other thread, there was a guy that had both, shoot him a PM and ask him. I looked at the other brands and ended up going with Kifaru for a couple of reasons, big one is warranty and reputation. And the fact that I only live a couple of minutes away from the Kifaru factory where I can get help with warranty situations versus having to box it up and send it off made it a no brainer for me! Customer service is another huge thing, you are not going to get help from the other companies like you will with Kifaru, at least not that I know of! I've never really been a brand snob before, but I'm quickly becoming one for Kifaru.
I think the one guys testimonial about his Sawtooth in Alaska and the weather it stood up to is a good example of just how good this tent is!

 

[michaelc10]

I currently run the cinnamon as well as 2 of my buddies , Ive had the sawtooth it's an excellent setup as well but about a pound heavier. For ultralight backpacking we all love ours. But if you need stand up room I would go with the sawtooth. Can't go wrong with either. I just like the weight of the Cimarron better , and will do 2 guys with stove just fine.

 

[michaelc10]

I also might add the cinnamon has 2 doors so when it's real hot I keep them both open, nice feature. The only bad thing I have to say about the Cimarron is when it gets real wet the sides will droop around the bottom a little being how it's made with less seams and less stakes than a 4 man tipi.

 

[Aussie-bowman]

I also might add the cinnamon has 2 doors so when it's real hot I keep them both open, nice feature. The only bad thing I have to say about the Cimarron is when it gets real wet the sides will droop around the bottom a little being how it's made with less seams and less stakes than a 4 man tipi.

Does it have tie off points higher up or just at ground level?

 

[jbra]

I'd be interested in hearing what the cimarron (pegs and pole) kit weighs as a complete package compared to the kifaru kit. I'm on the fence about these two shelter as well.

 

[michaelc10]

It has 2 tie outs about a foot off the ground on the 2 sides opposides opposite the doors on the cimarron

 

[michaelc10]

With carbon pole and stakes I'm at 3 pounds 10 ounces using the Msr ground hogs , with titanium stakes I'm a little lighter yet.

 

[mlob1one]

You will love going floorless. I have Seek Outside gear, but not the cimarron. I can tell you their customer service is very responsive too. They've helped me on more than one occasion with questions and special orders. Thankfully I haven't needed them for warranty work.

 

[dotman]

If I get to meet up with my buddy in MT I'll have my cimarron and he'll have his sawtooth, I'll post back what major diff I see and if I think they are or aren't worth it. Don't leave until Nov 6th and he may head home early so it may or may not happen for a comparison.

 

[jbra]

If I get to meet up with my buddy in MT I'll have my cimarron and he'll have his sawtooth, I'll post back what major diff I see and if I think they are or aren't worth it. Don't leave until Nov 6th and he may head home early so it may or may not happen for a comparison.

You need to make this happen!!!

 

[bourbon]

For me it came down to size. I'm 6'6" and heard differing opinions on being able to fit in the Cimarron. As a result I went the route that I knew would work and that was as a Sawtooth. So far I'm very happy with it although I wish it was lighter.

 

[bourbon]

Yeah but if the sawtooth is going to be that much more functional, durable etc then i wouldn't mind spending the money, also the seek outside one you have to pay extra for the stove jack which i didn't realise when i posted the initial thread. However still waaaay cheaper.

And when I was looking you had to buy the pole seperately as well. This put cost close to $500 USD with shipping which is no longer half the cost of a sawtooth.

 

[Aussie-bowman]

If I get to meet up with my buddy in MT I'll have my cimarron and he'll have his sawtooth, I'll post back what major diff I see and if I think they are or aren't worth it. Don't leave until Nov 6th and he may head home early so it may or may not happen for a comparison.

Thats would be awesome if you could dotman! I would really appreciate that! Im at university but work as a forest firefighter over our summer (October-march) which pays fairly well. However I am really only just getting into backpack hunting so I am having to buy pretty much everything. I am one of those people that wants to just buy once and buy quality. but if i can save money then im all for that! I start back at work tomorrow so i won't be buying anything for a couple of months.

 

[Aussie-bowman]

For me it came down to size. I'm 6'6" and heard differing opinions on being able to fit in the Cimarron. As a result I went the route that I knew would work and that was as a Sawtooth. So far I'm very happy with it although I wish it was lighter.

Im 5'10" and 170lb so fitting into most shelters isn't an issue for me which is good!

 

[dotman]

And when I was looking you had to buy the pole seperately as well. This put cost close to $500 USD with shipping which is no longer half the cost of a sawtooth.

I went with the REI pole for $25 that allows for a higher pitch and is only a 3oz penalty.

 

[dirtytough]

I was impressed with the sawtooth my brother used on our 3 week hunt. I am looking to buy one also but the price is steep. Really interested in hearing a comparison between it and the cimmaron.