Judging moose tips

These are both less than 50 inches. A young bull and an old timer past his prime
Both legal in 3 brow tine unit.
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How is that first one less than 50 inches???

Even if I grossly exaggerate the distance between the bases, I can’t make that less than 50 inches. It measures closer to 60” when I use the proper distance for the angler bases. I’m guessing that rifle is 46-48”long, which also puts the rack into the 50s.

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How is that first one less than 50 inches???

Even if I grossly exaggerate the distance between the bases, I can’t make that less than 50 inches. It measures closer to 60” when I use the proper distance for the angler bases. I’m guessing that rifle is 46-48”long, which also puts the rack into the 50s.

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The first one was 48 inches measured with a tape the morning I shot him.
3 browe tines, so a legal bull. I shot him at 20 yards as he responded to cow calling.
 
He barely beat 51" wide. I was pretty surprised when I measured, but am really glad he had the brow tines to be legal either way. We passed on a couple of smaller bulls in the trip, and I'm super glad we did! I don't think I would have shot this guy without the brow tines.

If you notice in the second picture, his tines come forward instead of laying out to the side.
Each year I come back to this thread for some judging practice and each year your bull trips me up. It's always a good reminder (for me) to use Vern's mantra of "think 60" if the brow tines aren't there.
 
Just wanted to add some input as i often use photos and attempted measurements to gauge Moose. Using pictures of the dead ones is a bit tricky because you often wont get the angle you need for the true perpendicular measurement (as needed for Alaska). The outside edge of the eyes are also usually a better reference point than antler bases in my experience. I built a program on my laptop using the old app (Moose Gauge) for a reference tool but there's still discrepancies and it isn't a truly reliable method for judging.
 
Some of the guys that regularly hunt moose need to put some pics on here. If nothing else just for fun
 
I've been using this 50" moose antler cut out for practice measuring at different distances with my scope reticle. It's 50" wide with a 2x4 screwed behind the cardboard for stability. I feel way more confident in using my scope as one field judging tool now. Interestingly, and I am not sure why, but I have found my judging to be consistently about 2" short (which I am TOTALLY cool with). It's not a perfect science but I thought this concept may be helpful for someone getting ready for their next hunt. I also will attempt to get a digi scope pic and measure on my phone to confirm if possible. I've seen enough video and pictures to know what a no-brainer-bull is though; I'm putting my practice to the test in 2 weeks.
 

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IMG_5521.pngIMG_5257.jpegI found this thread helpful when trying to wrap my head around field judging moose. The left antler cups in quite a bit better noticed in the pic of him on the hood. He was right at 57 inches.
 
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