Joe Rogan and Pot

[Mtnboy]

The funked up weed their selling these days is all jacked up with GMO and chemical nutrients. The plants don’t even have seeds. It’s far more potent than a good old stuff from the 70s.


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That's relevant how?

It's still just an f'n plant.

All the food (except the tiny organic section) in the produce section is also hopped up on the same shit, should we outlaw that too?

The ONLY reason anyone thinks that Weed is bad but is accepting of Alcohol being legal is due to propaganda and brain washing. Period. Do some research, if you truly go in with an open mind you'll be amazed just how big of a brain washing the "war on drugs" and marijuana specifically, really is.

 

[Kilboars]

That's relevant how?

It's still just an f'n plant.

All the food (except the tiny organic section) in the produce section is also hopped up on the same shit, should we outlaw that too?

The ONLY reason anyone thinks that Weed is bad but is accepting of Alcohol being legal is due to propaganda and brain washing. Period. Do some research, if you truly go in with an open mind you'll be amazed just how big of a brain washing the "war on drugs" and marijuana specifically, really is.

Ok. So I’m F’n brainwashed about all these drug rehab centers we can’t seem to make fast enough and the sober homes going up all over our neighborhoods are all about propaganda? And those are for people finding the drugs illegally. Now that the government needs more income they legalize it and how many more brainwashed souls will we have then?


I’m not saying it should be made illegal I’m just saying I don’t give a crap one way or the other. It’s just a beer. If I didn’t have any it wouldn’t change my life and if they want to bring back prohibition and Anheuser-Busch and Woodford reserve sponsor a big protest. I’m not gonna join in. But that’s me.

I don’t know a single individual who can say they benefited from weed or alcohol or any other drugs. Maybe you’re different or hang with a different crowd.

But I can rattle off a bunch of people whose lives are crap and they enjoy all the freedoms of drinking, smoking, and recreational drugs.

Bottom line it’s a free country so you vote for the politicians that want to make it legal throughout the country and tax a crap out of it and I’ll vote for the ones that don’t.


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[thinhorn_AK]

Ok. So I’m F’n brainwashed about all these drug rehab centers we can’t seem to make fast enough and the sober homes going up all over our neighborhoods are all about propaganda? And those are for people finding the drugs illegally. Now that the government needs more income they legalize it and how many more brainwashed souls will we have then?


I’m not saying it should be made illegal I’m just saying I don’t give a crap one way or the other. It’s just a beer. If I didn’t have any it wouldn’t change my life and if they want to bring back prohibition and Anheuser-Busch and Woodford reserve sponsor a big protest. I’m not gonna join in. But that’s me.

I don’t know a single individual who can say they benefited from weed or alcohol or any other drugs. Maybe you’re different or hang with a different crowd.

But I can rattle off a bunch of people whose lives are crap and they enjoy all the freedoms of drinking, smoking, and recreational drugs.

Bottom line it’s a free country so you vote for the politicians that want to make it legal throughout the country and tax a crap out of it and I’ll vote for the ones that don’t.


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Nobody goes to drug rehab over weed.

 

[Kilboars]

Nobody goes to drug rehab over weed.

Oh ok. Nuff said.


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[jlh42581]

Ok. So I’m F’n brainwashed about all these drug rehab centers we can’t seem to make fast enough and the sober homes going up all over our neighborhoods are all about propaganda? And those are for people finding the drugs illegally. Now that the government needs more income they legalize it and how many more brainwashed souls will we have then?

You seem to be confusing the opiate problem with cannabis. No one is at a half way house from smoking pot. Know how most of those people got there.... doctors writing prescriptions, shit the government deems safe.

 

[jlh42581]

Let me clarify something because this shit interests me most from a person that likes to grow flowers and gardens so I have done some research on it.

If you hold a medical card in any state and have a firearm you are in violation at the federal level because its not federally legal, if you hold a hand gun and a concealed carry permit even more so. I will not get a card even though I qualify cause I am not playing that game with firearms.

The plants are not filled with chemicals. At the basic level NPK are just chemicals in their own right. When you introduce organic fertilizers you introduce something into a pure system that you cant control the variables as easy. With that said.... 99.99% of the people growing it on a crazy level are 100% pure organic, theyre putting bat shit and kelp into those systems. They are picking the finest of the finest materials to root into.

Plants that dont produce seeds are called females, you can get a plant to flower(bud) and produce seeds but it will be a hermaphrodite. In order to continue on without having male plants most of those plants are clones, not grown from seed. If a grower desires to create a new strain they are doing so quite like a tomato plant is handled by manually cross pollinating them. GMO is a technique typically reserved to make plants resistant to certain things like roundup and they could never occur in nature. Hybrids on the other hand are done like I stated previously, while not as likely not totally impossible if you plant them side by side. As with any hybrid though unless you create a clone you might not ever get the same characteristics of the mother plant.

BTW.... smoked massive amounts in my teens, graduated college with highest honors, worked in big tech now for 15 years.

 

[Kilboars]

You seem to be confusing the opiate problem with cannabis. No one is at a half way house from smoking pot. Know how most of those people got there.... doctors writing prescriptions, shit the government deems safe.

Hey but I want my freedom and rights whether it comes from a weed or a poppy seed. If others can’t handle it whys that my problem?


Joking.


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[Kilboars]

Let me clarify something because this shit interests me most from a person that likes to grow flowers and gardens so I have done some research on it.

If you hold a medical card in any state and have a firearm you are in violation at the federal level because its not federally legal, if you hold a hand gun and a concealed carry permit even more so. I will not get a card even though I qualify cause I am not playing that game with firearms.

The plants are not filled with chemicals. At the basic level NPK are just chemicals in their own right. When you introduce organic fertilizers you introduce something into a pure system that you cant control the variables as easy. With that said.... 99.99% of the people growing it on a crazy level are 100% pure organic, theyre putting bat shit and kelp into those systems. They are picking the finest of the finest materials to root into.

Plants that dont produce seeds are called females, you can get a plant to flower(bud) and produce seeds but it will be a hermaphrodite. In order to continue on without having male plants most of those plants are clones, not grown from seed. If a grower desires to create a new strain they are doing so quite like a tomato plant is handled by manually cross pollinating them. GMO is a technique typically reserved to make plants resistant to certain things like roundup and they could never occur in nature. Hybrids on the other hand are done like I stated previously, while not as likely not totally impossible if you plant them side by side. As with any hybrid though unless you create a clone you might not ever get the same characteristics of the mother plant.

BTW.... smoked massive amounts in my teens, graduated college with highest honors, worked in big tech now for 15 years.

Good info.

To me it’s way to strong. 3 hits and your done for the night.

Great point on concealed weapons permit.


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[thinhorn_AK]

Hey but I want my freedom and rights whether it comes from a weed or a poppy seed. If others can’t handle it whys that my problem?


Joking.


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I don’t own an AR15 and don’t have any plans to own one but I’d never take the stance of: I don’t have one so it’s no big deal if they are illegal.

 

[4rcgoat]

The funked up weed their selling these days is all jacked up with GMO and chemical nutrients. The plants don’t even have seeds. It’s far more potent than a good old stuff from the 70s.


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Definitely better than the 70's stuff!!

 

[Kilboars]

Definitely better than the 70's stuff!!

It’s a strawberry papers that really made a great


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[Rob5589]

Definitely better than the 70's stuff!!

Tell you what, I've picked up a bunch of people that are tripping on today's weed. Mostly people in their 50's to 60's that decided to give it a go again after decades. They get tore up from the floor up! I tell them, this ain't the weed you smoked back in the day!

 

[4rcgoat]

Tell you what, I've picked up a bunch of people that are tripping on today's weed. Mostly people in their 50's to 60's that decided to give it a go again after decades. They get tore up from the floor up! I tell them, this ain't the weed you smoked back in the day!

.....i can just imagine. Its actually kind of frightening to think that people can visit some states and purchase that potent stuff......and then think it would be a good idea to drive across town for pizza.

 

[WV Mountaineer]

Genesis 1:12 "I have given you all the seed-bearing plants and herbs to use."

That’s cool. But, you’ve left out the teachings in part of Proverbs, Ephesians, Luke, and Romans, that pertain to the warnings of drunkenness. I reckon you could pick and choose your verses to fit your choices. But, to be fair, I think it’s important to acknowledge that the idea of the teachings are to warn of partaking in things that cause interference with ones cognitive abilities for sheer social enjoyment.

I’m not saying that’s you or anyone else in this thread. I’m saying that’s what God’s word says. And, the reason for my feelings.

 

[WV Mountaineer]

You seem to be confusing the opiate problem with cannabis. No one is at a half way house from smoking pot. Know how most of those people got there.... doctors writing prescriptions, shit the government deems safe.

I don’t think he’s confusing anything. That lies with those that feel he’s a Commie nutsack for saying it wouldn’t bother him if he never had another beer or shot of whiskey.

His first post was a display of how unimportant it is in his life. He’s been very clear if anyone wants to partake, that is fine too.

 

[Cameron.25]

In regards to what others do on public land affecting me, id personally much rather catch a whiff of someone smoking weed nearby than have to pick up their beer cans they left on the ground any day.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

In regards to what others do on public land affecting me, id personally much rather catch a whiff of someone smoking weed nearby than have to pick up their beer cans they left on the ground any day.

100%

 

[thinhorn_AK]

I don’t think he’s confusing anything. That lies with those that feel he’s a Commie nutsack for saying it wouldn’t bother him if he never had another beer or shot of whiskey.

His first post was a display of how unimportant it is in his life. He’s been very clear if anyone wants to partake, that is fine too.

Nobody called him a commie nutsack, those are your words.

They guy said it wasn’t important to him so he wouldn’t care if it’s illegal. Ok fine, AR15 and semi auto firearms and magazines that hold more than 5 rounds aren’t important to me so I don’t care if they are illegal….

It’s perfectly acceptable to not care that much about something for your own personal use while at the same time understanding that it is something other people like and should have the right to have and use.

The problem these days is that people can’t see the center line of truth, it’s one side over the other. Not many people can say that the January 6th riot at the Capitol was ridiculous AND the 100 days of vile the protests over the summer were also ridiculous….it’s one or the other for most people.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Hey Brother... comin' from a place of love... It's kinda not cool to be all "Honestly, you should be ashamed."

I get what you're trying to convey. But, for example, a better way to convey it might be something like "You should really re-consider your stance on <??>, and here's why...." then say the other stuff.

Cause the moment you say a sentence like you did there, BOOM, immediately the discourse becomes adversarial, a me vs you thing, and mentally the other guy stonewalls, and ain't a damn thing you're gonna say after that is gonna actually penetrate and take root in the other persons mind if you lead-in with an aggro phrasing like that. Kinda of a "You can catch more flies with Honey, than you can with Vinegar" type of deal. Hell, just ask any (successfully) Married man, they'll tell ya how (un) well that works.

Yeah... call em out in public. But don't start off with trying to "embarrass" them. I mean think about it. You ain't trying to embarrass him. The end result is trying to get the guy to see the erroneous logic they displayed and the evident truth in what you are then presenting to them.

Even Better? Try writing a sentence that starts off with something like "Wait...I'm confused about something, can you Help me here?" and then say something like "I thought that <state your point>. Am I wrong here?" It immediately sorta takes the blame-game off the other guy in a clever way. All the while bringing to light the folly in their assertion. But you're not putting 'em on the spot like that. You're shifting the spotlight over to yourself. So they're a bazillion times more mentally receptive to what you're sayin'.

Try it sometime. It really works! Not at all saying I consistently employ these tricks... but.. I learned a lot of em off the former President of the company, who was a Grand-Wizard at Schmoozing! Like he had it down to an Art Form. And they really do work.

It's the same reason why people like self-deprecating humor. Do you really think the comedian is or does all those dumb things they are saying? No. It's just a clever way to bring those observations to light.... get the other guy to think about em.... without it being confrontational. Win-Win.

Good point, you are correct and it’s something I need to work on. I’m surrounded by liberals and socialists at work so there isn’t much rational discussion, it’s rubbed off on me and negatively effects the way I respond to people who say crazy things. I’ll work on it.

 

[TheGDog]

Good point, you are correct and it’s something I need to work on. I’m surrounded by liberals and socialists at work so there isn’t much rational discussion, it’s rubbed off on me and negatively effects the way I respond to people who say crazy things. I’ll work on it.

Aw f**k man, sorry to hear that. F**k those wusses are soo damn annoying.