Jetboil Counterparts

[rayporter]

I had a coleman muli fuel start to melt in Alaska once.

so I have had a pocket rocket knockoff for many years that gets lots of use.

for true light wt for a night a cup and fuel tabs is the lightest you can get.

also don't forget how hard it is to fry fish or tenderloins on a jet boil. [ or alcohol or fuel tabs]

 

[darcytribe]

Yup, that’s about as light wt. and compact as your going to get. I don’t think you’re going to find a system that’s much less expensive either.

This is my setup as well. Went from jet boil to this. Much slower boil than jet boil or msr stove but supper compact and light.




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[EmperorMA]

If you want the Jetboil style of stove, definitely go with the MSR WindBurner. No plastic, much more reliable and superior in the wind.

If a separate stove/pot system sounds good, then don’t worry about an extra ounce and get the MSR Pocket Rocket Deluxe and the Titanium pot of your choice based on how much water you need to boil at once. For going solo, that usually means something between 700ml and 1L. For two people, 1L - 2L will usually get it done.

For going solo, I use the Pocket Rocket Deluxe and Snow Peak Titanium 900ml. It boils enough water for an 8oz cup of VIA and a Mountain House meal in one shot. For two, I run the MSR WindBurner with the 1.8L pot.

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

The Jetboil is only more efficient because of the heat exchanger fins on the bottom. You can use the BRS titanium stove with a jetboil pot to save lots of weight yet still maintain the efficiency. The arms of the BRS fit inside the heat exchanger fins, just bend them slightly in three spots for the arms to rest in. Way more stable than just setting a pot on top of the stove. You can use a titanium jetboil pot if you can find one.


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[AK Troutbum]

The Jetboil is only more efficient because of the heat exchanger fins on the bottom. You can use the BRS titanium stove with a jetboil pot to save lots of weight yet still maintain the efficiency. The arms of the BRS fit inside the heat exchanger fins, just bend them slightly in three spots for the arms to rest in. Way more stable than just setting a pot on top of the stove. You can use a titanium jetboil pot if you can find one.


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The JB cozy also helps a fair amount with its efficiency. I don’t know if that BRS stove, coupled with the JB pot/cozy would work without burning the cozy up. It may, I just don’t know.


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[Lawnboi]

I just picked up a windburner duo, and got a solo pot as well. I wanted more flame protection and more efficient burn than my PR and titanium pot combo. I’m sick of 5 minute plus boil times in the wind

The duo stove is pretty sweet, remote canister, so it’s very stable. The windburner burned is completely encapsulated by the pot, it’s a pretty slick setup.

I’m looking forward to giving it a go this year. I ended up with a skillet as well for canoe and car camping.

Iv always been happy with everything I’ve gotten from MSR, I’m hoping this stove is more of the same.

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

The JB cozy also helps a fair amount with its efficiency. I don’t know if that BRS stove, coupled with the JB pot/cozy would work without burning the cozy up. It may, I just don’t know.


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It definitely melts the cozy a little bit on the bottom while on full power haha. I usually run just below full though, as it seems to conserve gas a bit more and boils in pretty much the same time.

 

[AK Troutbum]

It definitely melts the cozy a little bit on the bottom while on full power haha. I usually run just below full though, as it seems to conserve gas a bit more and boils in pretty much the same time.

Yeah, I found in doing some fuel burn testing on misc. stoves, on some of them, fuel consumption can be greatly reduced by keeping the flame down, even though it may take twice as long to bring to a boil.

 

[JoeDirt]

I have the Primus Lite+ same weight as the Jetboil flash works great.

https://primus.us/products/eta-lite-7?variant=38436885010

 

[Reburn]

In my testing,
The jetboil micromo wins almost everytime in total weight, fuel consumption and boil times up to a 6mph wind.
In a 11-12 mph wind the msr windburner wins hands down. Lets be honest if your trying to boil in a 11 mph wind with no windscreen something is wrong. The jetboil micromo is my preference but only due to the fast it boils faster and it weighs less. My msr windburner has plastic on it as well so im not sure of the hatred of the plastic on the jetboil.

My lighest weight performer at 160.9 grams is a snow peak stove with a 750ml toaks titanium pot with lid and a snow peak hot lips in a dynema sack. with a 110g can it will make 8 burns in perfect conditions. This option I only consider for 2-3 day weekend trips. Anymore then that its actually an ounce heavier with a 230g can then the jetboil micromo with that 110g can that will make 25 burns under optimal conditions.

in conclusion. (boil times are at 55 Degress at 900 ft ASL.

Jetboil micromo - good all around performer. piezo ignition is super handy. 2 minute boils. If someone made some kind of windscreen that attached like the msr windburner the stoves would be very close to each other.

MSR windburner - if high winds are going to be a concern or your bivy or tarp camping where its harder to get shelter from the wind it would be my first choice. 2.10 minute boils. If MSR ever decided to make a smaller pot to get some of the weight down it would be so close on these stoves. I just haven't put the time into making a mirocmo / windburner hybrid.

Custom stove and Ti pot - super light and great for weekend trips where you can get almost a perfect windscreen and dont mind waiting 3 minutes + to boil water. I wouldnt take this on a 7-12 day trip to Alaska under any circumstances.

 

[gumbl3]

I'm not sure about the weight but I've got the Optimus Crux Weekender and it fits all the other bills. I have this because it's passed the test of time for me and fits perfect in an EMR2 pocket

 

[Clarktar]

I have been using a jetboil pot with Soto windmaster. The fins on stove fit right into the fins of the jetboil pot. Has worked for a few years now.

I have been looking at the primus multi fuel titainum model though....

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[Diewithyourbootson]

Optimus crux lite several hunting and camping trips with no problems. Stove and pots are like 45 bucks on Amazon

 

[Beendare]

........ Lets be honest if your trying to boil in a 11 mph wind with no windscreen something is wrong. ,,,,,,.

Agreed^...... not a big deal to construct a windscreen.....

 

[TheRambler]

Many windscreens have a tendency to blow over, worst case into your lightweight pot on your canister stove that already has a bad cog and the whole thing topples over. Or your windscreen goes skittering across the country side in an epic game of tag. Or knocking over your alcohol stove etc. Not all the time obviously, but it happens somewhat commonly. Less so on soft ground or snow where you can set it in good. You can also use tent stakes etc to hold it in place. I prefer less fiddle factor though.

Even with a wind screen many systems/setups are still adversely affected by the wind, but they do help substantially.

If i am going to be in an area exposed to the wind with minimal terrain wind breaks i will choose the windburner every time. I am more inclined to take a much lighter setup if i am going to be within a forest etc where wind affects are already minimized and mild weather is to be expected.

Use any stove long enough and you will find out where it shines, and where it flops.

I have really been liking the windburner duo remote setup and find myself reaching for it most often. That hassle free reliable in any conditions is worth the weight con IMO. All of these systems and setups have their pros and cons though. Choose one that best suits your needs.

 

[JClark]

I use old MSR Reactor, works great at high altitudes and in windy conditions. Never had a problem


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[sneaky]

In my testing,
The jetboil micromo wins almost everytime in total weight, fuel consumption and boil times up to a 6mph wind.
In a 11-12 mph wind the msr windburner wins hands down. Lets be honest if your trying to boil in a 11 mph wind with no windscreen something is wrong. The jetboil micromo is my preference but only due to the fast it boils faster and it weighs less. My msr windburner has plastic on it as well so im not sure of the hatred of the plastic on the jetboil.

My lighest weight performer at 160.9 grams is a snow peak stove with a 750ml toaks titanium pot with lid and a snow peak hot lips in a dynema sack. with a 110g can it will make 8 burns in perfect conditions. This option I only consider for 2-3 day weekend trips. Anymore then that its actually an ounce heavier with a 230g can then the jetboil micromo with that 110g can that will make 25 burns under optimal conditions.

in conclusion. (boil times are at 55 Degress at 900 ft ASL.

Jetboil micromo - good all around performer. piezo ignition is super handy. 2 minute boils. If someone made some kind of windscreen that attached like the msr windburner the stoves would be very close to each other.

MSR windburner - if high winds are going to be a concern or your bivy or tarp camping where its harder to get shelter from the wind it would be my first choice. 2.10 minute boils. If MSR ever decided to make a smaller pot to get some of the weight down it would be so close on these stoves. I just haven't put the time into making a mirocmo / windburner hybrid.

Custom stove and Ti pot - super light and great for weekend trips where you can get almost a perfect windscreen and dont mind waiting 3 minutes + to boil water. I wouldnt take this on a 7-12 day trip to Alaska under any circumstances.

The hatred for Jetboil is amplified by their anti hunting stance. They are NOT hunting friendly. MSR is hunter friendly.

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[Beckjhong]

FWIW, here are two popular low cost and lightweight stoves side by side. Great reviews on both. Etek city is the larger. BRS the other. Both will fit with a fuel canister inside a GSI haululite.

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[dhmc03]

Heres the BRS for better size context. Tiny.

 

[Val Kazansky]

Also consider how you pack. The jetboil is made so all its components nest and store inside it. Including fuel. There is even room that I carry there pot support accessory for using the burner without the factory pot. Yes they are a little heavier than other options but as far as security of use they are great. Also when im constantly unpacking and repacking as I change its nice that the whole system is one self contained piece and not several.