Is There Ever a Time to Hunt with Magnum Calibers?

[K9kodi]

A rifle can’t shoot itself so it’s not really part of the conversation lol

No one is arguing that a higher caliber rifle is not as accurate as a lower caliber. People are saying they can’t be shot as well.

The lol is cute and passive aggressive.

While a rifle cannot shoot itself; the precision of the rifle, lacking human intervention is possible and happens often and daily in testing for both firearms and or ammo. These machines as I’m sure you know offer almost zero deviation from shot to shot

 

[atmat]

The lol is cute and passive aggressive.

While a rifle cannot shoot itself; the precision of the rifle, lacking human intervention is possible and happens often and daily in testing for both firearms and or ammo. These machines as I’m sure you know offer almost zero deviation from shot to shot

Lol sure, except that’s not what anyone’s talking about.

 

[Bluefish]

The lol is cute and passive aggressive.

While a rifle cannot shoot itself; the precision of the rifle, lacking human intervention is possible and happens often and daily in testing for both firearms and or ammo. These machines as I’m sure you know offer almost zero deviation from shot to shot

Very true, but it’s not a 7-8 lb hunting rifle in field positions. Somewhere there is the extreme bench rest where they shot in a warehouse so no wind. Those shots were done with a heavy rifle on bags and the only contact was finger to trigger.

 

[HuntHarder]

Instead of focusing on recoil, maybe guys should focus on choosing a more stable "field position" I know it's really tough to pass on a low percentage shot opportunity, but maybe some should think twice. I know how much of a difference a solid shooting rest makes and apply it to my hunting. I rarely shoot over 350- 400ish unless I am prone and have a rear rest as well. Probably has cost me a couple opportunities, but no sweat in my book. Determine your effective range from different positions and hunt on!

 

[JPW13]

Instead of focusing on recoil, maybe guys should focus on choosing a more stable "field position" I know it's really tough to pass on a low percentage shot opportunity, but maybe some should think twice. I know how much of a difference a solid shooting rest makes and apply it to my hunting. I rarely shoot over 350- 400ish unless I am prone and have a rear rest as well. Probably has cost me a couple opportunities, but no sweat in my book. Determine your effective range from different positions and hunt on!

This is great advice, but recoil still has an impact, doesn’t it? Great field position with a 300RUM vs 223 - isn’t it still easier to be more accurate with the lighter recoiling option?

 

[EastHumboldt]

This forum has an interesting propensity to resort to “sealioning”. Reference for when I’m asked…
“is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity”

With all due respect…Can you prove the above statement? Can you provide statistics about how many times a day someone is sealioned on Rokslide? Inquiring minds want to know. Are other marine mammals involved, and if so what do you call that? I sincerely would like to see a peer reviewed study, as long as it is presented in a civil manner. I’ll relentlessly repost this until you provide evidence.

PSYCH!! Thank you sooooo much! I’m really excited to learn about sealioning. I was formerly internet incompetent. Since I’ve joined this forum I’ve learned how to troll, back-troll, flame, skewer, cyber-mock, meme-smack, passagresso-post, hijack,….. and now I see that I can sea lion with almost no effort.

So…. I’ll be waiting for some proof. Now I’m off to urban dictionary to look up sealioning.

 

[Billogna]

I have found in my travels (zoo)... that sealions are often sincere... yet rarely civil... YMMV...

 

[SteveAndTheCrigBoys]

With all due respect…Can you prove the above statement? Can you provide statistics about how many times a day someone is sealioned on Rokslide? Inquiring minds want to know. Are other marine mammals involved, and if so what do you call that? I sincerely would like to see a peer reviewed study, as long as it is presented in a civil manner. I’ll relentlessly repost this until you provide evidence.

PSYCH!! Thank you sooooo much! I’m really excited to learn about sealioning. I was formerly internet incompetent. Since I’ve joined this forum I’ve learned how to troll, back-troll, flame, skewer, cyber-mock, meme-smack, passagresso-post, hijack,….. and now I see that I can sea lion with almost no effort.

So…. I’ll be waiting for some proof. Now I’m off to urban dictionary to look up sealioning.

 

[HuntHarder]

This is great advice, but recoil still has an impact, doesn’t it? Great field position with a 300RUM vs 223 - isn’t it still easier to be more accurate with the lighter recoiling option?

Im sure there's accuracy in your statement. To what degree does it matter tho? Determine your effective range and send it from a " field position" you are comfortable at. I know small caliber hunting is the new rage on Rokslide. Shoot what you can at a range you feel confident. Pretty simple. If you want to get better at different " field positions" , practice or join S2H. If you've had a problem killing animals with larger cartridges, by all means, shoot something smaller and see if it helps you. I've yet to have an issue and I shoot large, medium and small cartridges. For long range sessions, I much prefer something with less recoil.

 

[JPW13]

 

[JPW13]

Im sure there's accuracy in your statement. To what degree does it matter tho? Determine your effective range and send it from a " field position" you are comfortable at. I know small caliber hunting is the new rage on Rokslide. Shoot what you can at a range you feel confident. Pretty simple. If you want to get better at different " field positions" , practice or join S2H. If you've had a problem killing animals with larger cartridges, by all means, shoot something smaller and see if it helps you. I've yet to have an issue and I shoot large, medium and small cartridges. For long range sessions, I much prefer something with less recoil.

That's the big question, I think—does it matter? Is it worth considering the impact on both the shooter and the animal?

With a larger cartridge, you get more recoil and catastrophic damage when using a fragmenting bullet. So instead, we use tougher bullets to prevent the critter from being butchered on impact. The lethality of the "magnum" is uncontested.

On the other hand, with a smaller cartridge, you get less recoil, making it easier to shoot accurately and maintain your sight picture. And from the numerous .224/.243/.264 discussions, they all seem to have at least equivalent lethality.

So, along the same lines of "does it matter, though?"—why not shoot something that's simply easier to shoot?

FYI: I shoot and hunt with plenty of heavy-recoiling guns, but more and more, I'm asking—why?

 

[Shortschaf]

With a larger cartridge, you get more... catastrophic damage when using a fragmenting bullet.

And from the numerous .224/.243/.264 discussions, they all seem to have at least equivalent lethality.

These two statements are contradicting.
Also, the first one is not possible to quantify
The second one is possible--dead is dead