Is "Full Containment" Overrated?

[Lukem]

With this being a mostly western forum, I'm curious what you all think about full containment rests when spot and stalking. Do you let the arrow rattle around in the cage of the full containment rest (not going to list brands, so I'm not bashing )? Or do you still put your finger on the arrow to keep it still and quiet? Kinda defeats the purpose, right?

What do you do?

Me? Shoot an old limbdriver and keep my index over the arrow keeping it in place.

What do you think, are the "full containment" rests a bit of a gimmick that we don't really use? I'm leaning that way. I contemplated getting a FC for a long time, then I started to think about how it is that I hunt and what I do when I hunt and realized it'd be an unnecessary purchase for me. Something to think about.

Most of the seasons are ending, time for some fun threads.

 

[ontarget7]

Not IMO. This is the reason i find myself going back to a QAD HDX which is cable driven. Have tried a lot of the limb driven rest on the market and don't prefer to have all the extra cord when on your knees on a spot and stock hunt.

 

[Lukem]

Ever had the cord hook on anything and snap the rest down? What do u think about the arrow wiggling around within the rest?

 

[William Hanson (live2hunt)]

I have a trophy ridge revolution. I love the rest which is the only reason why I bought it. I do however place a finger on the arrow to quiet it while stalking.

 

[SDHNTR]

IMO, yes. Never seen much of a need personally.

 

[bigeasygator]

The first elk I drew back on came in quick and in my rush to get the bow back the arrow jumped off of the rest. I spent the next five seconds or so fiddling with my bow and attempting to get the arrow back on the rest. This was all the time that bull needed to leave without me never getting a shot. Needless to say, I became a big fan of full containment rests from that point on. I find them more helpful for those situations than for the actual stalk.

 

[tipsntails7]

Agree with big easy, no matter what rest I have I'm gonna hold it down with a finger.

 

[realunlucky]

After a three hour belly crawl I tried to draw and swing into a kneeling position yep arrow popped off rest now my bow sports a full containment rest. I agree its not always necessary but sometimes you have to do multiple things at the same time and that's when it pays off

 

[jmez]

I don't see a reason for full containment. They make a $5 arrow holder that sticks to your shelf, put one on and you can tip the bow upside down and the arrow won't move.

IMO aggressive draw cycles that dump into the valley are the problem with the arrow popping off the rest when hitting full draw. Has nothing to do with the rest.

 

[Mtnboy]

Just one of several reasons why I use a Whisker Biscuit still.

Anyone using a Schaffer Opposition? It seems to offer the best of both worlds.

 

[oct71]

I'm a fan of TT smack downs. I moleskin the riser edges and the arrow can move around all it wants inside the containment arm. With the large launcher arm, it will pick the arrow up wherever the arrow is and get it centered. I'd have a hard time going back to a non containment rest.

 

[Craig Van Arsdale]

Not for me I like them to prevent the arrow from jumping off the rest in hunting situations.

 

[Timberninja]

Aside from additional cost (e.g hamskea) and potential fletch clearing issues, I don't see any downsides with having a full containment rest?

 

[ontarget7]

Ever had the cord hook on anything and snap the rest down? What do u think about the arrow wiggling around within the rest?

Nope, less cord going to the cable than to a limb. As far as wiggle room, that's why I prefer the QAD HDX. It's a lot less with that rest and stays very secure

 

[Lukem]

Aside from additional cost (e.g hamskea) and potential fletch clearing issues, I don't see any downsides with having a full containment rest?

Those, plus they typically have more moving parts (QAD, Ripcord, etc.) and more potential for failure. Not all have more moving parts, Smackdown is pretty simple.

Besides they don't look as clean All about style out in the woods.

I'm a fan of TT smack downs. I moleskin the riser edges and the arrow can move around all it wants inside the containment arm. With the large launcher arm, it will pick the arrow up wherever the arrow is and get it centered. I'd have a hard time going back to a non containment rest.

Moleskin will quiet it, but I've crawled through some nasty stuff and had a fixed broadhead catch on stuff and had I not had my finger on the arrow I wouldn't have been aware that the arrow was either going to come un-nocked or about to rattle real hard. Any sound in close on a stalk can't be good.

Nope, less cord going to the cable than to a limb. As far as wiggle room, that's why I prefer the QAD HDX. It's a lot less with that rest and stays very secure

When I had a TT Pronghorn I had the cord hook on stuff. I'd suspect that a loose cord is more apt to hook on something than a taunt one right next to 3 other taunt ones.

Good stuff fellas, lots of differing views.

 

[Rolo]

I've never had much use for full containment rests. Personally think the negatives outweigh the positives. The only FC rest that was somewhat more positive was the QAD, but then it had a breakdown, so that won't be going back on my bow.

Currently using a Hamskea Versa with a modified Limb Driver 'capture' blade on it. The 'ears' of the blade do a good job of holding the arrow in place. Occasionally, I'll throw my finger over it, but not often.

 

[goodgrouper]

I shoot one of the early trophy takers, pronghorn it think, I really like the function and accuracy of it. I run one of those plastic holders like jeez mentioned in front of it. My blunder with that plastic holder cost me a bull this past season. First light very cold in the am and my buddy calls a 6pt bull past me at 15 yards broadside. In practice I always bump the arrow out of the holder with my index finger before I draw but in the heat of the moment I forgot. The cold plastic holder had enough tension on the arrow that when it finally let loose the arrow shot up hit my sight and deflected clear out to my elbow. Pretty sure I heard the bull laugh at me while I was trying to remount the arrow with my lips at full draw. I think I'm going to try the hdx this year. For a hunting rest I think it's the best option for containment, when cocked it doesn't have much room for the arrow to move around compared to the other options. Not really interested in a limb driven rest either, on a hunting bow I think the less string to be snagged the better.

 

[bigeasygator]

I shoot one of the early trophy takers, pronghorn it think, I really like the function and accuracy of it. I run one of those plastic holders like jeez mentioned in front of it. My blunder with that plastic holder cost me a bull this past season. First light very cold in the am and my buddy calls a 6pt bull past me at 15 yards broadside. In practice I always bump the arrow out of the holder with my index finger before I draw but in the heat of the moment I forgot. The cold plastic holder had enough tension on the arrow that when it finally let loose the arrow shot up hit my sight and deflected clear out to my elbow. Pretty sure I heard the bull laugh at me while I was trying to remount the arrow with my lips at full draw. I think I'm going to try the hdx this year. For a hunting rest I think it's the best option for containment, when cocked it doesn't have much room for the arrow to move around compared to the other options. Not really interested in a limb driven rest either, on a hunting bow I think the less string to be snagged the better.

That's the problem with those holders...they're great at keeping arrows in place. Sometimes you want them to move. They cause the arrows to jump and sometime this causes a loss of containment. A full containment rest is more or less error proof.

 

[jmez]

Trim the arrow holder so the arrow doesn't fit so tight. You will figure out how much to trim so that the arrow stays put yet comes out easily every time.

 

[justin davis]

I use mole skin on the riser and up part of bow so if the arrow rattles around it make no noise when stalking.

I shoot a FC Hamskea versa rest. Limbdriven. Bad to the bone rest!

I had a bad experience with a non full containment rest. Had a very unique bull oppurtunity. Really cool elk. He stopped broadside. I drew my bow back and the arrow popped off the rest. I tried to mess with it and get it back on at full draw. Had to let down. Bull spooked. Never saw that bull again. He was an 8x9

If I had a full containment rest I would have killed him.