Instinctive shooting youtube

[FLS]

I’m sure there are some truly instinctive shooters out there. I think they’re re rare and most claiming to shoot instinctive are really split vision , gapstinktive, sight picture shooters. I’m one. I’ve never “measured” my gap, but I see it.

 

[bowhuntercoop]

Because you can't do it with your eyes closed. I'd love to see a true instinctive guy go put five arrows in the middle at twenty yards with their eyes closed while they draw and shoot the bow. If it were muscle memory wouldn't you be able to do it from a low bow position?

Or sitting in a tree stand, or on your knees shooting, etc.

Pretty sure Denny or one of the guys went over this in masters of the barebow series and proved it correct, along with shooting in the dark with the top instinctive shooter in the world at the time. The results….he couldn’t hit crap in the dark or in wierd postions, the less light there was the worse he shot….because he was referencing something in his brain and using it as an aiming method…..just like every single person does but some guys can’t admit that they do it haha.

 

[sodaksooner]

I watched the first minute….

Instinctive is a joke imo. It’s not real. You’re subconsciously aiming. Wither its gaping at the riser, the arrow, the target….its a form of aiming.

Rod Jenkins and numerous other guys have proved instinctive isn’t real.

Go into a totally dark range, put a laser on the target at say 15-20 yards. Have the instinctitive shooter shoot in the dark. It’s comical to say the least.

Fixed crawl, gapping at the bow or target, string walking, so many more accurate ways to hunt imo.

I’m blessed to have a very short draw length and I anchor extremely high. Makes for a nice 25 yard point on, so from 0-30 yards the tip of the arrow is always on the animal. It’s a bullet proof set up. Set the aim, then forget it, work through the shot process.

I can anchor corner of my mouth like alot of guys and have a 40 yard point on for follow up shots, elk, mule deer at the 35-50 yard range. Works extremely well.

Just curious, do you use a crawl at all? I just started to stringwalk a bit this year. Mostly a compound shooter and always did it by feel before. Much more accurate method for me with a fixed crawl. With my anchor point and where I have it set, I am point on at 23 yards, and adjust from there. It does put the nock high, so seems like a similar setup to yours.

 

[bowhuntercoop]

Just curious, do you use a crawl at all? I just started to stringwalk a bit this year. Mostly a compound shooter and always did it by feel before. Much more accurate method for me with a fixed crawl. With my anchor point and where I have it set, I am point on at 23 yards, and adjust from there. It does put the nock high, so seems like a similar setup to yours.

Years ago I used one. They are bad medicine for the whitetail woods!

Running higher then normal nock hieght with a fixed crawl is normal and fine. Many guys run 3/4-1 inch nock hieght for them to tune.

These days I just have an extremely high anchor, and with my current arrow length, weight, and build it’s a 25 yard dead center point on. Bottom of the arrow is 30, top of the arrow is 5-20 yards, like looking down a shotgun barrel.

I went from split, to 3 under, to a crawl for years, to adjusting my anchor higher and higher. Nothing wrong with a crawl at all, they will add some bow noise but the animals never seemed to be bothered by it.

Make sure you’re shootings broadheads though.

Big crawls are harder with Broadhead tipped arrows compared to just string walking or crawling with a field point imo.

 

[nnmarcher]

I've been shooting "instinctive" since I started trad and recently I've started to think about my inconsistency. Sometimes I'm shooting great and other times I really struggle.

What aiming technique should I try? It sounds like gap may be an easy transition. Any good resources in particular? I primarily hunt elk, but I enjoy shooting my local 3D league all summer too!

 

[Trumpkin The Dwarf]

I've been shooting "instinctive" since I started trad and recently I've started to think about my inconsistency. Sometimes I'm shooting great and other times I really struggle.

What aiming technique should I try? It sounds like gap may be an easy transition. Any good resources in particular? I primarily hunt elk, but I enjoy shooting my local 3D league all summer too!

I’d suggest gap shooting. You may find it easier to gap off your sight window, rather than the arrow point. Just try both.

My personal opinion is that trad guys get a little bump with gap shooting, but mostly the aiming system is just an easy thing to blame for our bad shot control/execution. Gap shooting lets you know your aim wasn’t actually the reason you missed.

 

[nnmarcher]

I’d suggest gap shooting. You may find it easier to gap off your sight window, rather than the arrow point. Just try both.

My personal opinion is that trad guys get a little bump with gap shooting, but mostly the aiming system is just an easy thing to blame for our bad shot control/execution. Gap shooting lets you know your aim wasn’t actually the reason you missed.

Definitely,I still struggle my fair share with my shot process. Hopefully this would help me eliminate one variable

Is this picture what you mean by gap off the sight window? Picture from: https://charlesarcheryblog.wordpress.com/2012/06/21/various-methods-of-aiming-the-traditional-bow/

 

[Trumpkin The Dwarf]

Definitely,I still struggle my fair share with my shot process. Hopefully this would help me eliminate one variable

Is this picture what you mean by gap off the sight window? Picture from: https://charlesarcheryblog.wordpress.com/2012/06/21/various-methods-of-aiming-the-traditional-bow/View attachment 1072033

Yep!

 

[bowhuntercoop]

Definitely,I still struggle my fair share with my shot process. Hopefully this would help me eliminate one variable

Is this picture what you mean by gap off the sight window? Picture from: https://charlesarcheryblog.wordpress.com/2012/06/21/various-methods-of-aiming-the-traditional-bow/View attachment 1072033

Use a washable marker, tape a toothpick, heck some bows like toelkes have built in reference marks. Once you learn the gaps it’s easy.

I gap, tip of the arrow, point on, all combined lol. I’m a huge Joel turner fan and agree with his teaching. Set the aim then I move on with the shot process. Has worked well for myself and the others I kno who shoot with a controlled shot process.

Learning to gap shoot is gunna make your consistency sky rocket compared to “ Instinctive.”

 

[FLS]

Definitely,I still struggle my fair share with my shot process. Hopefully this would help me eliminate one variable

Is this picture what you mean by gap off the sight window? Picture from: https://charlesarcheryblog.wordpress.com/2012/06/21/various-methods-of-aiming-the-traditional-bow/View attachment 1072033

That’s the picture I see. After a while you won’t really have to think about the reference marks, it just looks right. The longer the distance the harder I aim.