Ineos Grenadier 4x4… what do you think?

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Does anyone on Rokslide have experience with the relatively new Ineos Grenadier? I have been looking at them vs more established options like Toyota. Looking to replace my old 4Runner.

Sticker price is a bit high but after checking around there are some pretty significant discounts out there for 2024 and 2025 models. (10% on 2025 plus $2500+ discount for Costco members and sales guys wants to throw in more credits for accessories to close the deal.)
 
Also somewhat surprised the Ineos has never been brought up here on Rokslide since there are endless discussions on many other truck and 4x4 brands like Toyota and Ford.
 
I looked at them. A few things that steered me away for now was the general lack of dealer/manufacturer support. I think of it as still more like a startup than an established brand. For example, they lost their seat supplier earlier this year and had to halt manufacturing for months while they switched to another. I'm leery going all in on something that expensive that has questionable support and reliability longevity. Another issue is the small fuel tank. I think there may already be aftermarket ones out there, but I don't have high conviction on that. The other two things that are personal to me are I couldn't get over the dainty BMW gear selector and it's a V6. I still need to pull a trailer and even if I didn't, I prefer a V8 while I still can.

That being said, my neighbor has one, and it looks cool and capable.
 
Agree on desire for towing and V8... but unfortunately this isn't an option anymore for 4Runners and Land Cruisers with the dinky four cylinders in the new models. The seat issue seemed to get worked out. The 2025s that I looked at had the Recaro seats.

But I share overall concerns you mention as well regarding long-term support vs established brands (part of reason I wanted to bring up here on RS since hunters are generally hard on vehicles.)

I was not super impressed by the Houston sales people I dealt with when I test-drove last weekend. If I buy, I'll probably go through Sewell in Dallas or San Antonio since my past experience buying two other cars from them has been really good especially when it came to ease of buying and repair/warranty support.
 
Same here. If they are like the Discovery's no thanks. Lotta money and no resale.
 
Love the look - there are a surprising number of them out here in Idaho. Just cant justify the $$ compared to the other options out there, maybe if the used market picks up…
 
A very kewl looking vehicle I must say.

Forget about the price (it's high, I know) and the dealer support (lacking), but the true test of any 4WD vehicle is not where it will take you, but will it get you back.

For that reason only and IMHO, the Ineos Grenadier is untested in this arena, at least in the USA, so I will still stick with my '01 4WD T4R so I can say confidently, Mama, I'm Comin' Home. :D


Eddie
 
Nothing says rugged reliability like built in France with a BMW drivetrain.

They do look really interesting though. Certainly less needless frills than comes on most new rigs.
 
20+ years in the auto industry and everything in my being screams "that sounds like a terrible financial decision and endless headaches to keep on the road"...
But if you want to be the Guinea pig and $70k is a drop in the bucket for you...have it and let us know how it goes.
Personally, If I won one or someone gave me one of those, Id sell it to the first person that came along and offered 2/3 or even 1/2 retail price for it and walk away grinning ear to ear.
Sounds/looks like a LandRover...but worse.
 
I travel in some pretty remote locales as many do on this forum. All vehicles break eventually even toyotas. I try to buy simple vehicles that have broad dealer networks in all the western and southern states. Have owned Toyotas in the past, don’t currently mainly due to my towing needs. About the only non Toyota non US vehicle I would consider driving in remote parts of the US is a Cayenne, it simply doesnt break. This company from my perspective is another Land Rover until proven by time to be otherwise. I can remember when the only servicing dealer for Sprinters in Colorado was in Denver and a sensor failure on the west slope resulted in a flatbed ride to Denver. A trueism in the boating world is quality of a product can only be measured after several years of actual use in the environment for which it was designed. Whether its a boat or vehicle, a new manufacturer can tout their quality but only time will tell.
 
mattmann said:
The field ethos folks have done some testing. Seem good to go.


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Have they put one through 10+ years of real world use and managed to find parts for it when it breaks out of warranty...or in warranty for that matter from sounds of it?...Hell, GM cant even do that anymore, let alone a start up🤣
 
StuckInTheEast said:
Have they put one through 10+ years of real world use and managed to find parts for it when it breaks out of warranty...or in warranty for that matter from sounds of it?...Hell, GM cant even do that anymore, let alone a start up
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Well obviously not lol. I’m just saying in a short term “tough” use review, they seem cool. Saw one behind me the other day and looked pretty neat. I’ve always been a sucker for defenders and rovers though. The old ones. Not the new ones. I’d be willing to buy one to play with but for now I’ll keep my Braptor!
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I had a 1972 Land Rover 88", living in Southern California at the time. (I know) At that time the only parts available were in Mechanicsville NJ. and Pasadena. They were expensive at the time. That Rover was fairly bullet proof, albeit slow with a non synchro trans. The only good thing was it was made to be repaired anywhere. Every panel, plate, dash is easy to remove and re-install. You can remove the tranny from the top. Well thought out I thought. Took that thing everywhere. Not to mention Aluminum body. turbo diesel would be my choice.
 
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