If you could build any short action coyote gun…

[Felton]

Just to be different I’d build a 22gt. The easy button would be 22 creed.

 

[ZeroFoxGiven]

22 Creed gets my vote

 

[MT-nuffgun]

A slow twist 22-250 or 22creed shooting the 45-55 grain bulllets has the potential to be fur friendly. The OP could look up ScenarShooter on 24hourcampfire. That is Pat Sinclair out of Glasgow , MT. He is a state trapper and has killed thousands of coyotes (and much bigger critters) with a 220 swift. I’m sure if you searched his handle on that forum you would find plenty of his write ups on bullet choice for coyotes out of fast 22’s.

 

[justin davis]

22-250 or .22 creed

 

[scottprice]

22-250 or .22 creed

Can’t justify the 22creed ammo price to shoot a coyote

. The OP could look up ScenarShooter on 24hourcampfire.

I messaged him

 

[justin davis]

Can’t justify the 22creed ammo price to shoot a coyote


I messaged him

Maybe stick with .223 then. 22 creed 22-250 6 creed etc are all gonna cost about the same

 

[satchamo]

Man I’m surprised how little love the 243 shooting 58 grain vmaxs is getting. With factory loads and enough barrel those are dangerously close to 4000 fps at the muzzle with factory loads. I ran this setup on thermal for a few years and it was deadly. Since then I’ve gotten rid of the ar10 and moved to a 22-250 for nothing more than nostalgia as it’s what I shot for years at coyotes.

22-250
243
204

I don’t really see the use for the creedmors in this discussion. You have to spin them slower to get them to shoot the smaller/faster varmint bullets and at that point you could have just gone with a 22-250 or 243 and shot factory loads. But to each their own.

 

[Skerhunter]

Maybe stick with .223 then. 22 creed 22-250 6 creed etc are all gonna cost about the same

22-250 is a lot cheaper than 22 creed right now. I bought a few hundred rounds of each this fall - 22-250 50gr vmax was $18/box and 22 creed 80gr was $40/box.

 

[scottprice]

Maybe stick with .223 then. 22 creed 22-250 6 creed etc are all gonna cost about the same

Not true

 

[Slick8]

One thing I didn't see addressed but your comment about ammo price leads to think you don't handload.

I'm all for the 22 and 6 creeds, they're simply easy buttons. I had a 22-250AI years ago which is nearly identical to the creed. It was an awesome round.

You added ammo price and 300 yards, that's nothing the 223 wont do in a well built rifle. Some mention the 204 and it's very capable as well and likely easier on the fur. The 223 simply offers the greatest selection of factory ammo of anything you'll be looking for in a varmint round.
It's not as sexy as the others but it puts in the work.

I've often thought any of these in a light copper solid would be great on fur, only punching a small exit hole. But, it may not always anchor them and factory loaded ammo is a little harder to source.

 

[scottprice]

Yes, At the moment I am a factory ammo shooter

 

[justin davis]

Not true

Maybe if your shooting factory. Hand loading is what I was referring to.

 

[st1650]

204R

 

[TaperPin]

Yes, At the moment I am a factory ammo shooter

22-250 has cheap ammo - time tested and must kill a million coyotes a year.

I have both a fast twist 22 creed and 22-250. If one of the kids needs to borrow a rifle for coyotes or little varmints I don’t mind sending the 22-250 out with a couple boxes of shells that might or might not get picked up. The 22 Creed ammo and Lapua brass are more expensive so it doesn’t get lent out and I’d rather not burn the barrel up on such things.

204 will have about the same trajectory as a big 22 cal.

 

[waspocrew]

For 300 yards and in, 223 would be the most cost effective. 22-250 is great as well.

For what it's worth, I've shot several coyotes with my 6 CM and 108 ELDM factory ammo. Pelt damage has been minimal.

 

[scottprice]

For what it's worth, I've shot several coyotes with my 6 CM and 108 ELDM factory ammo. Pelt damage has been minimal.

6creed is on the list for sure

 

[ALF]

I messaged him

Slim chance of getting a response, he hasn't been on the fire for 3 1/2 years

 

[scottprice]

With concerns about ammo pricing, I'd scratch the 204 Ruger off the list. A quick search on ammoseek showed roughly the same price (or more) for 22 CM when shipping is included.

Incorrect, 204 comes in 50round boxes, not 20

 

[ALF]

Also, you neglected to say in your thread on the fire that this was a night time gun.

My last 4 rifles I put together were mostly for thermal coyote hunting, and all have slow twists for lighter bullets and more speed, which in my opinion is better at night.

 

[scottprice]

Also, you neglected to say in your thread on the fire that this was a night time gun.

My last 4 rifles I put together were mostly for thermal coyote hunting, and all have slow twists for lighter bullets and more speed, which in my opinion is better at night.

Day/night makes no difference at all in my eyes