Idaho NR Tag Allocations

[Rob5589]

Can you buy next years tags before the December 1st changes?

No. 2021 tags go on sale 12/1.

 

[KurtR]

I don't doubt that. But to get real, broad, public input, you gotta create at least a little bit of publicity of a proposal. there's certainly been publicity about the general concept of reducing non resident pressure. But not about this specific manner of doing so, that also happens to be a pretty dramatic departure in the whole system of allocating tags. They did publicize the specific manner of reducing pressure by way of tag fee increases. But not for this.

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I live in South Dakota and new this was coming. The nr fee increase and the capping zones has been talked about for over a year. I don’t understand what’s bad about capping zones and making people pick the huge area they get to hunt. The zones in Idaho are huge more than enough area to hunt.

 

[jlaner0408]

You mean all the soy boys moving to Boise and CDA?

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HAHA this made my night

 

[bluetick78]

The proposal was accepted today by the F&G commission. The new deer quotas by unit and elk quotas by zone are on the website. Looks like there will be lots more elbow room next fall!

 

[ID_Matt]

I can’t believe it’s not bigger news. There are going to be a pile of non res deer hunters very upset and I’m going to enjoy a 50% reduction in hunter numbers in my favorite units

I am not calling you at all, just mainly interested. How are you figuring a 50% reduction in hunters? Are you meaning a 50% reduction in non resident hunters? Seems the units I hunt will only be dropping non-resident tags by 1-2% so maybe a 10% overall decrease in non resident tags? Maybe my math is wrong but I also didn't look at other units. Maybe there is some that are more like 30-40% non residents that they will be cutting to 15%?

 

[Fullfan]

Wow that just posted the nonresident tag availability per zone.

 

[sneaky]

I am not calling you at all, just mainly interested. How are you figuring a 50% reduction in hunters? Are you meaning a 50% reduction in non resident hunters? Seems the units I hunt will only be dropping non-resident tags by 1-2% so maybe a 10% overall decrease in non resident tags? Maybe my math is wrong but I also didn't look at other units. Maybe there is some that are more like 30-40% non residents that they will be cutting to 15%?

There are units that NR numbers are going to be way down in. He was actually low in his guess on the units he's referencing. It's more like a 90% reduction lol

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[sneaky]

Elk Tag - Nonresident Limits

Information and available tags for nonresident general season and capped zone elk hunts in Idaho.

idfg.idaho.gov

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[sneaky]

There's the numbers for those who want to look them up for themselves

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[ID_Matt]

There are units that NR numbers are going to be way down in. He was actually low in his guess on the units he's referencing. It's more like a 90% reduction lol

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Jeez. That is huge. I was just looking at some of the more popular units like 39 and looking at hunter numbers in 2019 compared to what they allocated the non resident too and it only seems like it will be a slight decrease but maybe I am not looking at the right numbers. How are you figuring or finding the current non resident numbers?

 

[sneaky]

Jeez. That is huge. I was just looking at some of the more popular units like 39 and looking at hunter numbers in 2019 compared to what they allocated the non resident too and it only seems like it will be a slight decrease but maybe I am not looking at the right numbers. How are you figuring or finding the current non resident numbers?

Hunt planner

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[nphunter]

So this is essentially getting rid of General ID deer tags and making them all otc unit specific the way I read it. No more hunting multiple units if your a NR.

 

[sneaky]

So this is essentially getting rid of General ID deer tags and making them all otc unit specific the way I read it. No more hunting multiple units if your a NR.

Yes. Deer is unit specific. Elk tags are still by zone.

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[NJDiverDan]

Hunt planner

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Where are you seeing past Non Resident numbers per unit in the hunt planner? I can only see the total number of hunters?

Thanks,

-dan

 

[Rob5589]

Where are you seeing past Non Resident numbers per unit in the hunt planner? I can only see the total number of hunters?

Thanks,

-dan

I looked all over and could not find it. Looking at 2019 elk numbers, 76 (Diamond Creek) had 1143 hunters in archery. The non res used to be somewhere around 650 as I recall. Now it is 459. I believe that number also includes a certain number of tags for outfitters, so there won't be 459 available to the general public. The new rules show that no more than 50% can go to outfitters.

 

[sneaky]

Where are you seeing past Non Resident numbers per unit in the hunt planner? I can only see the total number of hunters?

Thanks,

-dan

That's the numbers they used. Total hunter numbers, of NR participation was greater than 15% then they capped them at 15% of total numbers. It's pretty easy to do the math from the posted total numbers

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[sneaky]

Diamond Creek has been mid 400s on tags the past couple of years for NR. Used to be almost 700 and residents had about 1k or so.
You can see where the disparity was with those numbers. It didn't change under this new reg because it was already a capped unit.

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[ID_Matt]

Where are you seeing past Non Resident numbers per unit in the hunt planner? I can only see the total number of hunters?

Thanks,

-dan

I am with you. I can only find total hunter numbers on the hunt planner and then F&G just posted the new limits. Can't tell what the total non residents per unit was in the past to compare.

 

[sneaky]

I am with you. I can only find total hunter numbers on the hunt planner and then F&G just posted the new limits. Can't tell what the total non residents per unit was in the past to compare.

It doesn't matter what the total number of NR hunters was in each unit. They've never posted those numbers. All that matters is total number of hunters, and if NR participation was greater than 15% or less than 15% historically. IDFG has those numbers, but for this model they are irrelevant. They didn't say they were going to cap NR at 15% of past NR numbers, but at 15% of total numbers in each unit.

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[ID_Matt]

It doesn't matter what the total number of NR hunters was in each unit. They've never posted those numbers. All that matters is total number of hunters, and if NR participation was greater than 15% or less than 15% historically. IDFG has those numbers, but for this model they are irrelevant. They didn't say they were going to cap NR at 15% of past NR numbers, but at 15% of total numbers in each unit.

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I guess what I am trying to do is find out how many less total hunters this is going to equal in units I hunt. I can see how many total hunters there have been in the past but I don't know how many of those were NR's, which are the ones that are being cut.