Ibex caliber and bullet

[Spiral Horn]

What I'm wondering is why this thread is in the Sheep Forum - after all Ibex are clearly Mountain Goats. Also, IMO, on average wild sheep give up the ghost a bit easier than wild goats. That is except for Aoudad - but then again, even though GSCO categorizes them as sheep they genetically are really not.

 

[SDHNTR]

Sometimes guides aren’t as smart as they think they are though. First aoudad hunt I want on the guide insisted that 300wm was the minimum, he’d even convinced another client to go with a 338 lapua magnum. I told him I’d like to bring my 30-06, maybe a 308 or a 6.5 and he was having none of it. I ended up taking the 300wm. A year later I went again but with a different guide, when I asked him about cartridge he just said bring whatever I want. We took a 30-06 and a 6.5 creedmoor, we took 2 great Rama well past 300 yards with each of the guns, they both worked. Next time I go for aoudad I’m just taking my 6.5 creed.

No argument on those cartridge choices. I’m not saying he needs a magnum. A 6.5 creed is perfectly appropriate, but that’s also a far cry from a .223. Like many things, but yet a concept that is all too often lost these days, the best answer is in the middle.

And regardless of cartridge, on an expensive hunt, far from home, the last thing I want is an overly frangible bullet. You may only get one shot opportunity and it may not be perfectly broadside. I want to break bone. I want to anchor that critter. Expecially one that might do a death jump off a cliff and become unrecoverable.

 

[CC55]

Have no experience here, but this is a good hit list of podcasts from Bryan Martin, who has a ton of experience over there. A lot of caliber talk in them. Longer shots sound like the norm with a good amount of wind. 6.5’s are plenty according to him.

You searched for Bryan Martin - Journal of Mountain Hunting

journalofmountainhunting.com

 

[medvedyt]

What I'm wondering is why this thread is in the Sheep Forum - after all Ibex are clearly Mountain Goats. Also, IMO, on average wild sheep give up the ghost a bit easier than wild goats. That is except for Aoudad - but then again, even though GSCO categorizes them as sheep they genetically are really not.

well we should have one subforum for the whole caprianae that will include, goat, sheep, chamois, thar and ibex ... easier to follow ...

 

[medvedyt]

Have no experience here, but this is a good hit list of podcasts from Bryan Martin, who has a ton of experience over there. A lot of caliber talk in them. Longer shots sound like the norm with a good amount of wind. 6.5’s are plenty according to him.

You searched for Bryan Martin - Journal of Mountain Hunting

journalofmountainhunting.com

an expert for sure but he got himself in trouble more than once not following some simple rules. caught one time it can be a mistake more than one as a repetition it is called a pattern ... so follow his advices but make sure you know what you are doing ...

 

[Short Track]

These animals are NOT invincible. They die quickly. .270 ELD-X. 200 yards, dead. Why anyone needs a magnum or bonded ammo is ludicrous. 6.5CM would have worked well too. ELD-X just explodes and takes out everything in it's path.

 

[whitecoyote]

These animals are NOT invincible. They die quickly. .270 ELD-X. 200 yards, dead. Why anyone needs a magnum or bonded ammo is ludicrous. 6.5CM would have worked well too. ELD-X just explodes and takes out everything in it's path.

I think you’re right. After talking to more mid Asia guides and listening to more podcasts and talking to more people who have hunted ibex, I think the 6.5 prc is plenty sufficient! Many recommended the 147 ELDM, and 156g Elite Hunter bullet.

 

[whitecoyote]

Have no experience here, but this is a good hit list of podcasts from Bryan Martin, who has a ton of experience over there. A lot of caliber talk in them. Longer shots sound like the norm with a good amount of wind. 6.5’s are plenty according to him.

You searched for Bryan Martin - Journal of Mountain Hunting

journalofmountainhunting.com

I’ve been talking to Bryan on Instagram! He’s the man, very knowledgeable stand up dude and will answer any questions you might have with an in depth answer! We need more people like him around.

 

[huntem]

He’s the man, very knowledgeable stand up dude and will answer any questions you might have with an in depth answer! We need more people like him around.

Dig a little deeper on Bryan post Covid and some would disagree on his business practices. I have no dog in the fight but the Wild Sheep Foundation felt strongly about his business practices.

 

[whitecoyote]

Dig a little deeper on Bryan post Covid and some would disagree on his business practices. I have no dog in the fight but the Wild Sheep Foundation felt strongly about his business practices.

I wonder if that’s the same guy they’re talking about in this podcast. The broker/outfitter from the US took the money for the Marco Polo and never paid for the tag.

 

[huntem]

I wonder if that’s the same guy they’re talking about in this podcast. The broker/outfitter from the US took the money for the Marco Polo and never paid for the tag.

Yes, Luke Thorkildsen from Weatherby won a Ibex hunt with Bryan. A friend of his joined the trip and paid for a Marco Polo sheep hunt. However, Bryan failed to pay the local outfitter for the permit, so no sheep.

 

[alaska_bou]

I wonder if that’s the same guy they’re talking about in this podcast. The broker/outfitter from the US took the money for the Marco Polo and never paid for the tag.

A prominent GSCO member made a number of public posts a few years ago about being taken for over six figures on a markhor hunt by the same person. It was quite a few people in total on a number of different hunts.

 

[huntem]

Getting back on the original topic, you folks certainly bring up valid arguments on choice of caliber. I have two identical rifles chambered in 6.5 PRC and 7 PRC. I've always been one to be a little over gunned so the 7 will make the trek with me to Kyrgyzstan in 2029