Hunting ski, skin set up?

[Seeknelk]

Ok, lots of good info guys.
Marker kingpin binding on hyper vector ski ?
Then for a boot... obviously depending on fit. I have a high volume foot. Salomon S-lab a good place to start?
Boot and binding compatibility and use cases is a bit confusing.
I'm happy getting good gear that I can grow with.
Yeah, I get that I'm not an advanced skiier and that things I'm envisioning in my head usually go up in smoke when I get out in the real world! I'll not be just grabbing my stuff and blindly heading in for camping.
But I want the proper gear to start with and start learning.

 

[Seeknelk]

I rented Rossi BC cross country(scaled, metal edges, fairly wide ) set up once years ago...they DID NOT work for climbing mountain trail grades that weren't even steep.
The split board I tried was just a test to see what skins can climb and it was amazing! Almost scary how steep they would just slide up. But yeah I quickly got sick of the board.

 

[Cervid]

Skiing downhill with skins on is a terrible idea. Skins are for going up, not down. You can go uphill with fish scales or by side stepping, but for any serious grade you’ll want skins.

Telemark skiing refers to the binding. You can put a telemark binding on all sorts of skis. Telemark skiing is really fun and it sounds like they might be good for your purpose, but only if a) you are already very good at skiing (and I mean very), or b) if the terrain you’ll be using them in is pretty mellow and basically just slightly more difficult than something you’d take regular xc skis on. If a or b doesn’t hold, then as other posters have mentioned, get an ultra light alpine touring set up. And if the terrain is pretty mellow, a backcountry style xc ski, potentially with a 3pin boot binding, would be lighter and easier to use with gently rolling terrain.

 

[Poser]

Skiing downhill with skins on is a terrible idea. Skins are for going up, not down. You can go uphill with fish scales or by side stepping, but for any serious grade you’ll want skins.
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As a Splitboarder/snowboarder who never learned how to actually ski, I have to split ski in certain situations: mild, undulating terrain and the occasional downhill that’s not worth transitioning for and FS roads. I do often split ski with skins on. Sometimes with just one skin on when it’s a deep skin track: I’ll glide on one ski and use the skin ski to control my speed. In other situations, I’ll just “ski” with my skins on to help control my speed since my skiing skill level is so pathetically terrible. I’ve snowboarded down some gnarly terrain only to want to piss my pants at the end when I was forced to split ski a 40 foot roller 100 yards from the trailhead.

 

[Sled]

Love the term “survival skiing”.

It's when the balance of fun and difficulty flip. It's usually because you've made a poor choice of aspects to ski on or simply a poor mode of travel for the condition.

 

[Fireflyfishing]

Buy a sled (snowmobile) and never look back.

 

[Seeknelk]

Buy a sled (snowmobile) and never look back.

Ha! Like I posted above. I tried that. Snow machine isn't allowed or able to go in most good marten habitat here.
It only got me to the fringes.
Sure , a turbo 800 173 will get into some of that...but most of the good stuff is wilderness. And if I'm on a $30,000 sled, I'm gunna just be into riding my mega dollar machine

 

[JohnB]

Get some time in skiing in bounds before venturing out on your own as some folks have mentioned above skiing with a 40 lb pack is a completely different world than skiing in bounds. For perspective I can ski anything in bounds as long as there aren't mandatory airs and backcountry skiing is my primary winter activity. I've had some of the toughest turns while out cougar hunting with my rifle, a ton of layers, spotting scope, tripod and FoxPro in my pack. Snow in the BC can be great conditions or you can wind up trying to make your way through some good awful combination of wind affect, heavy snow over light or just straight slush.

One other thing to keep in mind is that Dynafit style(tech) bindings have inferior release characteristics to alpine bindings with an increased likelihood of tib/fib fractures. If you do wind up with a set of tech bindings then your skill should be high enough that you aren't frequently taking hard falls and coming out of your skis.

That said I've been keeping an eye out for a set of fish scales Voile skis to use with a set of Scarpa Alien RS boots and some light tech bindings for exactly this type of usage.

 

[medvedyt]

A splitboard will be impractical for this purpose, unless you want to splitboard for fun and just split-ski the entire time you are running trap lines. Otherwise, too many transitions and I'm going to assume that the terrain will, more often than not, be too mellow for a a splitboard in downhill mode.

Black Diamond makes these light duty skis that you could use with mountain boots -they are closer to being snowshoes than skis, though: https://www.outdoorgearlab.com/revi...kis/black-diamond-glidelite-147-snow-trekkers

and, you won't get the downhill performance as you're not wearing ski boots and these have permanent skins on them which was one of your disqualifies. These would, however, most likely be your cheapest entry point to actually getting on skis and getting around.

looks like a lot what the russians are using in siberia but theirs are made wood and are using rubber boots with ski attachs at the front like the finnish army is using too ...

 

[Seeknelk]

Get some time in skiing in bounds before venturing out on your own as some folks have mentioned above skiing with a 40 lb pack is a completely different world than skiing in bounds. For perspective I can ski anything in bounds as long as there aren't mandatory airs and backcountry skiing is my primary winter activity. I've had some of the toughest turns while out cougar hunting with my rifle, a ton of layers, spotting scope, tripod and FoxPro in my pack. Snow in the BC can be great conditions or you can wind up trying to make your way through some good awful combination of wind affect, heavy snow over light or just straight slush.

One other thing to keep in mind is that Dynafit style(tech) bindings have inferior release characteristics to alpine bindings with an increased likelihood of tib/fib fractures. If you do wind up with a set of tech bindings then your skill should be high enough that you aren't frequently taking hard falls and coming out of your skis.

That said I've been keeping an eye out for a set of fish scales Voile skis to use with a set of Scarpa Alien RS boots and some light tech bindings for exactly this type of usage.

Thanks! Yeah I'll definitely not be just heading deep solo or anything like that. I can ski and fairly well but will certainly be rusty. Do you have any experience with the marker kingpin binding?