Hunting guide???

[IdahoElk]

Does he have experience with horses? If he has no idea what Elk/Deer are he'll probably be a wrangler.

 

[HornPorn]

Ive hunted in many states and with many outfitters , MOST have very inexperienced guides...outfitters dont care...ive hunted expensive lodges that were on Sportsman Channel and others that were Wall Tents...outfitters do not care about anything other than getting your money..they promise the world and when you get there, they all immediately change. Im still trying to find one honest Elk Outfitter ...not sure there is one out there....disappointing

That feeling when you bump a 2+ yr old thread to let everyone know how much you have gone on guided hunts, LOL

 

[The Guide]

Well Dr Seuss...you said in your reply that "using guides or outfitters to access animals" and to "teach you how to hunt". You assume alot...there are tons of very experienced hunters like myself that hire guides for specific species either because they #1 don't have time to fly out west or to other countries and scout areas because we run large businesses or have jobs that cannot allow that much time off. As for a hunter needing to be experienced to hunt...that is subjective as I think it depends on the species. Anyone can find and shoot wild pigs here in Florida or Texas ...doesn't take much to do that...while whitetail or Elk are more challenging and require knowledge of the land, wind, and of course shooting ability.

So you are hiring a guide/outfitter to access animals you otherwise wouldn't be able to access due to your time constraints or limited knowledge of where/how to find them? How is that any different than what I said? You are paying for access. If you are also interested in having a person do the rest of the job for you too so all you do is pull the trigger, that isn't a hunt in my opinion. But some people desire that service and that's ok. It just isn't what I desire in life.

Jay

 

[GatorMike]

So you are hiring a guide/outfitter to access animals you otherwise wouldn't be able to access due to your time constraints or limited knowledge of where/how to find them? How is that any different than what I said? You are paying for access. If you are also interested in having a person do the rest of the job for you too so all you do is pull the trigger, that isn't a hunt in my opinion. But some people desire that service and that's ok. It just isn't what I desire in life.

Jay

We will agree to disagree. Hiring a guide is not just so you can "pull the trigger" is quite an ignorant statement as if you are a hunter then you know there is A LOT more that goes into harvesting an animal than just simply knowing where they are. Best of luck to you on your hunts where you know everything, never ask for any information from anyone (same as hiring a guide btw), and im sure you harvest everything you seek...there are no other hunters like you on earth...congrats on being the best that has ever lived.

 

[The Guide]

We will agree to disagree. Hiring a guide is not just so you can "pull the trigger" is quite an ignorant statement as if you are a hunter then you know there is A LOT more that goes into harvesting an animal than just simply knowing where they are. Best of luck to you on your hunts where you know everything, never ask for any information from anyone (same as hiring a guide btw), and im sure you harvest everything you seek...there are no other hunters like you on earth...congrats on being the best that has ever lived.

Come out and hunt with me. I won't charge you a thing but I will educate you on western hunting. This is a serious offer to learn to hunt western public land. I've already had 4 out of state friends come up to Montana this year and every one of them can't wait to come back next year. Knowledge doesn't have to be payed for.

My buddy that left last week said that his experience will forever change the way he hunts at home. He sent me pictures of several deer he saw on a day hike when he got home that he said he found using the techniques I showed him while we were hunting.

Life doesn't have to be hard unless we make it that way.

Jay

 

[GatorMike]

you're a sensitive lil thing aren't ya?

you seem like a keyboard tough guy...exactly what I expected

 

[WalterH]

Here in AK, non-residents are required to be guided for brown bear, sheep, and goats. Every years clients that book these trips find themselves being guided by other non-residents asst. guides that have never guided for or hunted the species for which they are guiding.

Someone explain that one to me?

 

[Sherman]

you seem like a keyboard tough guy...exactly what I expected

Bless your heart.

 

[GatorMike]

Here in AK, non-residents are required to be guided for brown bear, sheep, and goats. Every years clients that book these trips find themselves being guided by other non-residents asst. guides that have never guided for or hunted the species for which they are guiding.

Someone explain that one to me?

That is what I have found for Elk in the lower 48 as well. Ive been to Alaska and it is by far the place that you 100% need local knowledge due to the terrain, animals, and weather. Its the Outfitter that cant get experienced or good guides...so they reach out looking for help...lots of "experienced hunters" become novice guides and the client hunters are the ones that pay...but the majority of outfitters dont care about customer service...once "most" of them get your money, their job is done. Very hard to find an outfitter with an excellent reputation where the clients have positive reviews based on actual hunts. Sad what has happened to the industry.

 

[william schmaltz]

Someone explain that one to me?

In order to keep grown men that have decades of western hunting experience safe in AK, we must require them to be accompanied by a 20 year old kid from Texas that had never even seen a bear until they flew into the field with said client.

It makes sense if you don’t think about it.

 

[Sherman]

In order to keep grown men that have decades of western hunting experience safe in AK, we must require them to be accompanied by a 20 year old kid from Texas that had never even seen a bear until they flew into the field with said client.

It makes sense if you don’t think about it.

You win the interwebs for the day.

 

[WalterH]

In order to keep grown men that have decades of western hunting experience safe in AK, we must require them to be accompanied by a 20 year old kid from Texas that had never even seen a bear until they flew into the field with said client.

It makes sense if you don’t think about it.

Aha!

And here I was thinking it had something to do with money and not safety...

 

[GatorMike]

Bless your heart.

Bless your heart.

Not sure why you felt the need to jump in to a conversation that you were not a part of...but super cute defending your buddy.

 

[CorbLand]

In order to keep grown men that have decades of western hunting experience safe in AK, we must require them to be accompanied by a 20 year old kid from Texas that had never even seen a bear until they flew into the field with said client.

It makes sense if you don’t think about it.

Its like Wyomings wilderness law.

Hiking in the wilderness? Have it.
Fishing in the wilderness? You bet ya.
Camping in the wilderness? Please do.
Carrying a weapon and a tag? Hold up.

Really just need to call it what it really is. State sponsored welfare for guides.

 

[tntrker]

My "guide" last year for opening week of elk archery was the camp cook. He didn't even know how to cow call or anything. Had me walking downwind to a wallow he ws told to take me.....

 

[grfox92]

Are you sure he's a guide and not just a hand or a packer?

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[GatorMike]

Are you sure he's a guide and not just a hand or a packer?

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A Camp cook being a guide also is not uncommon....basically means the outfitter is cheap and doesn't want to hire a cook also, so he has guides doing some cooking and my guess is the food is very basic

 

[Iowafarmer]

A friend of mine told me today that his son applied for a hunting guide position in MT, and got the job. Pretty decent base monthly salary and room and board, plus tips. I don't know where or which outfitter. The kid (20-30?) has never set foot in the state of MT before. And.... he's never hunted anything, ever, anywhere.
I've never used an outfitter before but I'm hoping this isn't the norm. I always figured anyone that's guiding has a fair bit of experience and knows the area well. Maybe he won't be on his own with clients, hope not. Not fair to someone paying out big bucks for their dream hunt.

Back in 1988 me and my buddy went with an outfitter in Noxon Montana seems the guy had quite the setup in the summer he ran a “guide school “ then he’d hire those guys in the fall we ended up with a guy from Alabama he’d never seen an elk and he wasn’t much on cold weather my buddy finally got a shot at a nice bull the last day and the “guide “ got so excited he yelled SHOOT IT my buddy and the bull both jumped

 

[maufic]

Come out and hunt with me. I won't charge you a thing but I will educate you on western hunting. This is a serious offer to learn to hunt western public land. I've already had 4 out of state friends come up to Montana this year and every one of them can't wait to come back next year. Knowledge doesn't have to be payed for.

My buddy that left last week said that his experience will forever change the way he hunts at home. He sent me pictures of several deer he saw on a day hike when he got home that he said he found using the techniques I showed him while we were hunting.

Life doesn't have to be hard unless we make it that way.

Jay

I'll take this offer if it's open to anyone.

 

[The Guide]

I'll take this offer if it's open to anyone.

If you get Montana tags I'll show you how to public lands hunt with high levels of success while exploring the beauty of the area. Be ready to hike 3 to 5 miles a day up to 10 on a long day or parking out a kill.

Jay