Yea i've looked into final rise and that's a big selling point with the nonpadded straps plus quality. I was also looking at the Hunt Redi vest and trying to find out how thick their padding is on their harness. Looked all over youtube and other places but no mention of it. Thanks and good luck in KS.I use the final rise vest and have no problems. Just got setup this morning in ks for a week of hunting. The strap is pretty thin and doesn’t cause any problems with shouldering the gun for me.