HR 621 and 622 Death by a thousand cuts to public land

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Today it's 3.3 million acres tomorrow its 640 million. If you haven't contacted your representatives on this issue, you really need to do so. Serious pushback needs to be shown here to kill the idea of both transferring or selling or public lands.

For anyone who doesn't know yet HR 621 sells 3.3 million acres of BLM land in 11 western states. HR 622 removes BLM and Forest Service law enforcement from the landscape and puts that heavy burden on local police who would end up having to enforce laws on all our federal lands. One is an outright sell of our public lands, the other is undermine the publics safety, inviting lawlessness, and undermining the agencies that manage them. Both these bills are a step in the direction of the end goal, getting rid of public lands. These 3.3 million are simply the easiest to take, so they'll take them today. Then a month from now they'll take 10 million, and so on. Sportsmen need to stand against this NOW.

Here is an easy way to send a customized email to all your representatives:

Trout Unlimited has a good way to contact your reps by email, just scroll down to where it says find your official enter your zip code and address and it lets you add all your representative from President to Lieutenant Governor:

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Also, don't just email, call your representatives:202-224-3121
Then call Jason Chaffetz: 202-225-7751

And if you have time I would send an actual mailed letter to yor representatives as well. It's time to stay involved. If you aren't prepared to get involved at this point, then you better be ready to lose. Be polite in everything you do, but make it clear who you are, how these lands are important, that you are against these two bills, and that there should be no transfer of public lands to the state or sell of them. If your representative is against these things contact them anyway and thank them. Even if you feel your just wasting air on some politicians they still need to hear from everyone.
 

CorbLand

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Emailed mine and plan to send hand written letters. Unfortunately its the dumbasses from Utah that actually want this to happen.
 
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Chaffetz inbox is full. I would encourage anyone who can to call his office Monday or sometime next week to voice opposition to his two bills and request they get pulled back. Also, all my other reps inboxed were full as well, keep on the pressure. We are going to win this war.
 

RickH

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Just emailed Rep Scott Tipton who is on the Natural Resource Committee, Senators Cory Gardner and Michael Bennett from my area. Plan on calling all tomorrow.
Thanks for posting this.
 
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This bill gets passed around pretty frequently, never makes it anywhere. By all means contact reps and remain vigilante, but I don't see the sky falling here.

Esse quam videri

I agree, this bill has no co-sponsors and was simply moved to committee, which is a sure way to kill it off quietly.

However, just to be sure, I just emailed my Representative.
 
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This bill gets passed around pretty frequently, never makes it anywhere. By all means contact reps and remain vigilante, but I don't see the sky falling here.

Esse quam videri

Agreed the sky isn't falling, but this is a good way to start what could be a hard 4 year period for public lands by scaring the shit out of any politician who had the slightest thought of introducing major legislation to transfer or sell our public lands. If sportsmen pound them over this, it will help keep major legislation from even being introduced. Keep pounding your representatives. Some of them are good on other things and bad on this, but we must hold them all accountable on this issue.
 

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Done.

Called. Emailed. Sent physical letters.

Hold your hunting buddies feet to the fire to do the same please!

Like Newburg says, we gotta stand and fight or stand to lose!

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I would encourage everyone to investigate these bills before making a decision...
There is a great deal of good that can come from these bills too.
Be informed before sending anything off.
 

realunlucky

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I would encourage everyone to investigate these bills before making a decision...
There is a great deal of good that can come from these bills too.
Be informed before sending anything off.
What funding model will states employ to manage these lands?

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Public land transfer is going to be un unfunded mandate on the states if it happens, but 621 is not a transfer bill. It is a bill for the outright sale of over 3 million acres of public land. Pulling federal law enforcement out without providing funding for additional local LEOs just puts an additional burden on the counties and states.
 

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I would encourage everyone to investigate these bills before making a decision...
There is a great deal of good that can come from these bills too.
Be informed before sending anything off.

Care to elaborate on the "good"?
 

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I would encourage everyone to investigate these bills before making a decision...
There is a great deal of good that can come from these bills too.
Be informed before sending anything off.

^ Jason is that you?
 

1signguy

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These bills simply free up land for economic development and allow for local police forces to manage and safe keep.
In the case of Utah something like 80 percent of the state is federally owned. Might explain why the state is so poor.
Silly not to have the conversation and discuss how the land can be better managed to help all parties with an interest.
Federal ownership is too far removed from the folks trying to eack out a living in some of these places. I think the folks in Utah ought to decide what to do with their own land.
 

realunlucky

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It's not thier (Utah) land it's everyone's land. Shouldn't everyone have a voice in its being gone FOREVER? Also now they don't apprise the value do we just sell it to our buddies even if it's under valued?

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