How to Shoot/Train Effectively?

BigMiss

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I am new here and have found myself jumping deep into the weeds on rifle setups, shooting fundamentals, and becoming proficient at longish-range shooting. Please feel free to point me to good threads I may have missed on this subject...

I live in the midwest and do not have access to long ranges. I can shoot out to about 160 easily, but that is the furthest I can get. There is a range that I can go to where I can set targets at 300, but it is quite out of the way and requires a full day devoted to it, and you have to shoot off a bench if there is a RO there. There is a range that I believe goes to 800, but it would require a weekend trip, which is not feasible right now except for once or twice a year.

I found an old thread a while back where Form had posted some 7, 5, and 2 moa targets for an at-home shooting test, which I have started to use a bit. Other than practicing positional shooting at 100-150 yards, what are some suggestions for becoming proficient at longer distances? My goal over the next couple years is to be 100% proficient out to 450 yards. Not "I can hit sub-moa of deer at 300, so let me try this shot" but truly 100% "that animal is dead if I choose to make it that way." Right now, I know that if I build a solid position, likely only possible for me in a version of prone, I can nail anything I want out to 300. But I also know I cannot do that repeatably unless ALL conditions are perfect. Therein lies where I create tension in my brain while hunting, and what I want to remove from the equation.
 
There's only one way to learn how to read wind or get good at shooting from weird field positions.

It starts with renting a Uhaul :cool:
 
A huge part of it definitely needs to be training in the specific environments. But there also must be some great ways to learn and train fundamentals at home, or at the 100 yard range. I know what my range limitations are, I am just not sure how to best utilize what I have available to me.
 
Do you have any National Forrest Service land where target shooting is not restricted?
In MN, you can recreationally shoot on state forests, but without extreme elevation and the popularity of outdoor recreation in this state, I would feel pretty uncomfortable shooting on public lands regarding both proper safety, and public encounters.
 
I would assume that the majority of folks recreating on MN state lands are not very pro gun or pro hunting. I personally like to avoid interacting with the public when doing these activities. Meaning, the thought of shooting on state forest land isn't very appealing to me in part due to the lack of elevation change for range safety and in part due to how many people are around that might give me grief. Maybe it is all in my head. It just feels weird.
 
In MN, you can recreationally shoot on state forests, but without extreme elevation and the popularity of outdoor recreation in this state, I would feel pretty uncomfortable shooting on public lands regarding both proper safety, and public encounters.


I can certainly understand that. I do shoot on expansive public land, even then, I go pretty far out of my way to only shoot in areas that get no recreation that time of year. I mostly use an area in a nasty burn with a trail that has been decommissioned.

That being said, if you want to shoot far, you're going to have to practice shooting far and in order to do that, you're going to have to find somewhere you can do that. No way around it.
 
I would assume that the majority of folks recreating on MN state lands are not very pro gun or pro hunting. I personally like to avoid interacting with the public when doing these activities. Meaning, the thought of shooting on state forest land isn't very appealing to me in part due to the lack of elevation change for range safety and in part due to how many people are around that might give me grief. Maybe it is all in my head. It just feels weird.

I will say, that while I avoid such encounters as much as I can, I have been on busy trails with a sleeve over my rifle and most people seem to assume its a fishing rod. I say that because people have regularly asked me about the fishing, even when I have been orange during bear season. Wearing camo may change that dynamic, though.

But, if nothing else, walking around with a rifle on popular recreational trails will result in a lot of time consuming questions.
 
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