For those that have killed 300 type bulls on command, what would you say is your biggest contributing factors to targeting them ??
"On command" is an inaccurate way of describing it, at least for me. I live where hunting (at least used to be) great and there were no shortage of 300" bulls around, and tags are OTC and months of season (archery and rifle). For me there's been a lot of time, scouting, days hunting, more than most people do. In the last 25 years or so, if i shot an elk that was 300", it was an accident. I'd likely not walk away from a 330 type elk in SW MT, but anymore I'd rather not shoot one that wasn't a bit bigger than 300. Elk are just too big and too much work and the bulls are usually not in easy places to handle them for me anymore. I've sold pretty much all my elk racks that were under 320. They've probably been chewed up by dogs by now, as that's what the antler buyers use most of them for. Took a picture of some of the smaller ones before a buyer picked them up a couple years back. I'll say effort they took compared to the income for selling them was way out of balance.For those that have killed 300 type bulls on command, what would you say is your biggest contributing factors to targeting them ??
Awesome advice right there...Have to be in country for bulls to age. Typically that would be a good crop of bulls 5+ yrs old with good genetics. My country there is very very limited glassing, that means, knowledge, cams, big rubs, history, boots on the ground, and sufficient days to hunt. Prior to heavy wolf predation I could count on bulls bugling through to October. I was a bugle runner and on one mountain I killed 7 six points over a 13 year period, two on the same meatpole. You also have to be patient and likely willing to eat tags letting little bulls walk which is not easy. You also have to enjoy many days of nothing,knowing you can make it happen,if you enjoy the suck as they say
We always say "embrace the suck", and I feel deeply that without some struggle you never appreciate the blessings.enjoy the suck as they say
I see fewer and fewer each year. A decade ago and prior, I'd see a handful each season. In more recent years I usually only see 1 or 2 during a rifle season. In 2022 I shot the only one I saw. In 2023 I saw one smaller 6 point the entire rifle season and black powder season and did not take one. We have a very long season and being able to go on every single day when the conditions are good is key. They're so much harder to find later than in September.I'm sure it's hard to say specifically but on those rifle hunts how many bulls do you need to look over before finding a target bull ?? Are you sitting on post rutt hidy holes ??
It seems like I need to see about 50 bulls before seeing somthing with size.
I'll say from my experience the rifle bulls from SW MT were by far the most challenging hunts. Very very tough and my days of doing some of that are coming to a close if they haven't already.I see fewer and fewer each year.
A decade ago and prior, I'd see a handful each season. In more recent years I usually only see 1 or 2 during a rifle season. In 2022 I shot the only one I saw. In 2023 I saw one smaller 6 point the entire rifle season and black powder season and did not take one. We have a very long season and being able to go on every single day when the conditions are good is key. They're so much harder to find later than in September.
I'm in need of a mentor!I see fewer and fewer each year. A decade ago and prior, I'd see a handful each season. In more recent years I usually only see 1 or 2 during a rifle season. In 2022 I shot the only one I saw. In 2023 I saw one smaller 6 point the entire rifle season and black powder season and did not take one. We have a very long season and being able to go on every single day when the conditions are good is key. They're so much harder to find later than in September.
2 of my last 3 MT rifle elk I actually found the prior years antlers of the bull I took. And no other antlers, just those 2 bulls. I found the set of the 2019 bull the spring after I shot it, so they sat out there for a year.
2017 elk
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2019 elk and prior years sheds.
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