How do I become disciplined enough to stop being obese?

[RCB]

This is false, and I get sick of seeing it. CICO is one way to lose weight, but it mostly revolves around eating processed, high carb, shit foods. Calories are a unit of measurement for energy, and not all are burned the same way. Go carnivore and eat as much meat and eggs as it takes to be satiated once or twice a day, and see how your body reacts after 3 months. If you're overweight I guarantee you will lose weight. The problem is it's not easy, it takes time, lots of people don't have the discipline, and they cheat. A true keto diet is much more palatable and will provide the same results. In the end, glucose is the enemy.

Respectfully I disagree. The only way to lose weight is to enter a caloric deficit. You could do this with a carnivore diet, a shitty processed-food diet, or any diet of your choosing. But if you lost weight, you can be sure that you entered a caloric deficit. If you gained weight, you were on a caloric surplus. It is also untrue that CICO "revolves around eating shit foods". It's literally just counting calories; you can get the calories from whatever diet you want. Carnivore included.

This is basically just laws of thermodynamics. If you eat a carnivore diet and you have a calorie surplus, you will gain weight. If you eat a carnivore diet and you have a calorie deficit, you will lose weight. This is true of any diet.

So really my point is to try to simplify things. People suggest all kinds of ideas and rules and suggestions - and they're not bad. But they're distractions from the main point: ultimately, the only thing that matters for weight loss (not necessarily health) is caloric deficit.

If OP wants to try carnivore diet, have at it.

 

[*zap*]

Nothing wrong with eating good fat.

Good luck to you.

Personally, I am going on 70 and below military height/weight for 40+. Takes effort, a good plan and the ability to make plan modifications as you go.

 

[CMF]

Thanks for the replies but everyone is way off here. I'm not asking about what type of diet to do. I'm asking about discipline to do Psmf.

It is a scientifically proven diet for the absolute fastest fat loss.

Thanks

I think you're getting "off" replies because there is a lot of experience in this thread. If you don't have the discipline to follow your recommended diet, it will not be any faster than an alternative healthy diet that you may be able to follow. Doctors have been proven wrong on various things time and time again.

For discipline, in regard to health/fitness, Goggins is a good place to start.
There are also other books out there just about discipline, "Discipline is destiny". If you don't like to read, get audible and listen during commutes or exercise. Other books to consider "Willpower doesn't work", "Atomic Habits"
Find some podcast on health, fitness, exercising, mindset, etc. to listen to weekly while exercising to stay in the mindset of improving.

I'd say two must read/listen books are Goggins-Can't hurt me, and Keto Flex by Ben Azadi.
Keto Flex addresses most of the problems with all types of diets. The approach has helped us a lot. When we're in a routine, we eat low carb and go carnivore at times, but we always allow for "cheat" days or days when we can eat what we want. It's much easier to stick to a diet all week when you know you can have that pancake with breakfast come Saturday morning.
Keto Flex also addresses fasting, and this has been helping my wife.

 

[Rock’N Tacos]

I would listen to Jocko Willink and David Goggins.

 

[Georgedubya]

The following seems appropriate here. Not meant to be insulting at all. Everyone has vices with which they struggle. The point is that there is no secret. Practical advice would include removing food you don’t want to eat from your house entirely.

David Goggins on Instagram: "I am not talking about a mental condition here, it’s a mindset condition! Some of us are so used to doing exactly what we want to do when we want to do it that when we have to do the things we don’t want to do, those v

415K likes, 5,342 comments - davidgoggins on August 31, 2022: "I am not talking about a mental condition here, it’s a mindset condition! Some of us are so used to doing exactly what we want to do when we want to do it that when we have to do the things we don’t want to do, those very things...

www.instagram.com

 

[*zap*]

Thanks for the replies but everyone is way off here. I'm not asking about what type of diet to do. I'm asking about discipline to do Psmf.

It is a scientifically proven diet for the absolute fastest fat loss.

Thanks

Your main problem may be that you know everything. Except 'discipline'.

Good luck. Your gonna need it.

 

[fatlander]

Stop making excuses. Just do it.

I was once a little heavier than your current weight and I’m 3” taller than you. For six months I ate a few eggs and breakfast protein to start the day, then chicken breast, rice and green beans for lunch and dinner. I trained like a savage for those 6 months, getting down to 165. In the last decade I’ve stayed at 185 of lean muscle mass.

I get hangovers from eating junk food now. I work out 5 days a week, period. No matter where I am or what I’m doing.

Wake up and want better for yourself, no one else cares and no one else is doing it for you.


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[Rock’N Tacos]

You might have your testosterone levels checked if you haven’t already. If they are low, some TRT will help significantly. I am a decade older than you, but have been on it for several years and the benefits have been incredible.

 

[JDBAK]

Carnivore, but don’t obsess over the fat in meat. Eat the meat that tastes good, but don’t add fat after that. Drinking cream, eating cheese, and large amounts of bacon make loosing weight difficult. But by eating fat in meat to taste you should be much more satiated.

Don’t snack.

Get enough salt (to taste). I like LMNT.

Walk. Lift. Sprint or row.

Maybe some time restricted eating, like breakfast at 10 or noon.
Don’t eat too much too late, you’ll sleep better.

Don’t necessarily have to go pure carnivore, but put the animal protein first. It’s satiating, and may do the most to eliminate cravings.
Meat/eggs/fish first. Then maybe veg, then MAYBE a little fruit or honey last. Don’t assume you need carbs for energy.

The above has worked for me since 2018, helped me keep off 30 lbs.

 

[North of 60]

Part of the human condition is that we commonly don't choose to make significant changes until we are ready to do so. Hence the reference above to "it takes what it takes" and that is an individually defined phenomena. Another way to say it is the concept of being sick and tired of being sick and tired.

When the pain and grief related to fear of consequences, or actual consequences, of not changing are more than the draw of continuing whatever behavior/situation we are in, we are more likely to change. Those consequences are individually defined, as what may be a consequence to one person may not be to another person.

Related to obesity, fear of possible or actual related medical consequences...diabetes and it's constellation of problems including higher risk for dementia, higher risk of needing lumbar fusions, higher risk of having knees, or hips replaced quicker or more than needed, CVD, or having to wear a CPAP for sleep apnea, etc. are motivators for some.

For me, physically hurting much less (reduced joint pain) was, and continues to be, the primary motivation along with not wanting any lumbar fusions in my future if possible.

 

[Harvey_NW]

Respectfully I disagree. The only way to lose weight is to enter a caloric deficit. You could do this with a carnivore diet, a shitty processed-food diet, or any diet of your choosing. But if you lost weight, you can be sure that you entered a caloric deficit. If you gained weight, you were on a caloric surplus. It is also untrue that CICO "revolves around eating shit foods". It's literally just counting calories; you can get the calories from whatever diet you want. Carnivore included.

This is basically just laws of thermodynamics. If you eat a carnivore diet and you have a calorie surplus, you will gain weight. If you eat a carnivore diet and you have a calorie deficit, you will lose weight. This is true of any diet.

So really my point is to try to simplify things. People suggest all kinds of ideas and rules and suggestions - and they're not bad. But they're distractions from the main point: ultimately, the only thing that matters for weight loss (not necessarily health) is caloric deficit.

If OP wants to try carnivore diet, have at it.

We can disagree, but hundreds of thousands of people have reversed diseases and lost weight without counting calories or exercising, just by changing their diet, and they're not starving themselves. If your calories are from protein instead of glucose, there's no insulin response triggering glycogen conversion and storage, you poop out what's not used. If you gain weight on a modest and disciplined carnivore/keto diet it's from muscle mass increase, not fat storage.

There are several MD's out there with multiple publications and tons of blood panels and patient data to substantiate it, they just get blacklisted and we continue to be gaslit by the industry.

 

[hoooogan]

For myself, my motivation for discipline is my performance on a mountain bike. You NEED some sort of tangible metric to compare against. Numbers on a scale are not sufficient. I know because I've tried that numbers method dozens of times.

Back story: I've been a mountain biker for the last ~12 years. I went from a modest ~300-500 miles a year and slowly fell out of love with the sport around 2017 when I was cracked a rib. I averaged around 100 miles a year since then. This meant that EVERY time I rode, my ass would get chewed up by the seat and I would struggle to do a mild ride. This basically went on since 2017 up until last summer. So ~8 years of struggling every time I rode. I almost gave up biking altogether. But last year, I decided to extend my summer visit to my friends in CO from 2-3 weeks to 3 months. My awesome friends out there made sure that I got the most of it, so they invited me out to ride amazing trails all over the state. I think we did ~15 rides in those 12 weeks. The first ride was as I described. I got f-ing obliterated. Great time with amazing views, but my body was not having it. As the rides kept coming, coupled with my unbeknownst to me portion control diet from being a guest in someone else's home, I lost about 25 lbs. By about ride 8, I was making it through entire rides without my legs being completely blown out. There were times in the past where I would walk my bike up gentle inclines because I didn't have the legs to ride it. I was now riding everything, but with random rest stops. I honestly don't know how to describe the feeling of this kind of accomplishment, but this is why I'm still trying to at a minimum, maintain zero net gain/loss.

I departed for my trip last year at 230lbs. I returned from this year's trip at 175. The last time I was 175 was probably 2006.

 

[RCB]

We can disagree, but hundreds of thousands of people have reversed diseases and lost weight without counting calories or exercising, just by changing their diet, and they're not starving themselves. If your calories are from protein instead of glucose, there's no insulin response triggering glycogen conversion and storage, you poop out what's not used. If you gain weight on a modest and disciplined carnivore/keto diet it's from muscle mass increase, not fat storage.

There are several MD's out there with multiple publications and tons of blood panels and patient data to substantiate it, they just get blacklisted and we continue to be gaslit by the industry.

Agreed that we can disagree and I appreciate the civility. My response would simply be that if people lost weight by changing their diet (and of course there are many that have), it must have been that the change resulted in a calorie deficit. You are certainly right that one does not need to count calories or exercise or starve themselves to enter an energy deficit. But nonetheless a calorie deficit was achieved, else they wouldn’t have lost weight.

I think it’s possible and indeed likely (and probably demonstrated) that some diets are more satiating than others, and probably therefore make it easier to achieve a calorie deficit without really thinking about it.

 

[swavescatter]

I just eat whatever and then finish off with syrup of ipecac. Great abs workout too.

 

[isleofGough]

The idea that it is willpower is old fashioned and mostly incorrect. There is debate about what drives it: genetics, plastics, etc. Currently drugs like semaglutide or tirzepatide are your best bet (surgery for morbid obesity) and all of these not only are effective but lower your risk for heart disease, cirrhosis, dementia, arthritis, sleep apnea, and a host of other conditions. Still, one needs to eat a healthy diet and get lots of exercise though.

 

[HairyScandinavian]

I am male, 33, 5 feet 7 inches tall, 245 pounds and I have a 46 inch waist. Doctor told me the other day to do a PSMF until I get to at least 35 waist inches.

PSMF is all lean protein with veggies for fiber and very little fat. Only what comes on the protein in trace amounts.

Every time I start I make it a few days and then break. How can I become disciplined enough to do what the doctor says and stop being obese and change my life?

If you don't come up with the discipline to do it now you'll definitely get more determined after having a heart attack, if you survive it. Don't let it get to that point, do something about it now while you've got the opportunity.

Having said that it's not rocket surgery, just eat less than you burn, that's it. It's less expensive to eat less, you don't need any special foods or diets.

 

[ThorM465]

I am male, 33, 5 feet 7 inches tall, 245 pounds and I have a 46 inch waist. Doctor told me the other day to do a PSMF until I get to at least 35 waist inches.

PSMF is all lean protein with veggies for fiber and very little fat. Only what comes on the protein in trace amounts.

Every time I start I make it a few days and then break. How can I become disciplined enough to do what the doctor says and stop being obese and change my life?

I didn't read any of the 8 pages, so I'm going to jump right in here to answer the OP.

1. Understand MDs have exactly zero knowledge of proper nutrition inherent to their degree. Some will take it upon themselves to become experts in the area, but they are the minority. The MD indicates an above average ability to do this, but that's it.
2. You need to stand in front of a mirror, look yourself in the eye, and admit to yourself that you're an addict and you have a problem. It's really no different that someone addicted to cocaine, but your drug is sugar. Just like other drugs, some people can do it recreation-ally and they're fine and some do it once and their life is ruined.
3. You have to decide that you're going to fix yourself and failure is not an option.
4. Carnivore diet. You've got to detox from sugar, it'll take a little less than a week, that week will suck, but it gets much better from there. Once you've gotten the sugar out of your system it's not hard to stay away from it and shed weight. However, we all have our weak points. Identify yours and eliminate them from your life.
   1. Stay hydrated with sugar free electrolytes; otherwise the keto flu will kick your a**.
5. Understand that your body treats anything that's not fat, protein, or an essential mineral as a sugar. That's all carbs and all vegetables. Obviously fruit is too, but some people can tolerate eating moderate portions of fresh fruit following a high fat source with little to no detrimental effects.

God Speed

 

[swavescatter]

I find that a few tapeworms in June helps me get into elk shape.

 

[Mike Islander]

 

[Harvey_NW]

I have the answer. How do you become disciplined enough? Just ask yourself - do you want to lose weight and look and feel better? Do you want a healthy future? Do you want to be a regular at the Dr's office and Pharmacy? Do you want to piss away your retirement paying for pharma? Do you want to be able to do activities with your grand-families? Do you want to stay off the operating table?

Change your diet, and prioritize moving your body. There's no other excuses. Don't cheat, just f***in do it.