Here I thought Ryan Lamper was one of the good guys for the hunting world…

[Flyjunky]

He was probably questioned months ago and knew the hammer was coming down.

Yes, this was known quite a while ago. They already collected phones, computers, etc.

 

[Tackett54]

This is crazy since, as we all know, prosecutors never over charge on allegations and the facts are always as law enforcement allege. /s

I’m always interested in the weird Venn diagram of dudes who don’t trust the government yet always immediately believe allegations as presented by local governments and then reported by the media.

I hope it’s not true, but some of it certainly could be.

Amen

 

[alexnelon]

I would imagine if he had a phone with him, the data is there 'to be' used to prove. Though I was more thinking if it was even used prior, to get to this point.

As in - are they cross referencing location data of known devices of hunters, with paid wolf bounties per unit

Just spit balling. I know it's "possible" but would be surprised if it's currently proactively being done.

No chance they got location data from personal electronic devices prior to having a warrant. That’s completely illegal. Even the CIA isn’t “allowed” to do that.

Someone reported him, and it was probably someone close to him.

 

[wind gypsy]

Okay what reason is that exactly? For what reason was Unit 21 and Unit 28 separated into distinct units?

In western states that actually manage their big game (most of them, much of Montana is an example of an exception), there are many different game management units managed specifically based on objectives for each specific area. Some focus on trophy quality and low pressure, some on granting vast opportunity, and everywhere in between. Often season structures are based on how vulnerable a population is/isn’t to harvest with certain weapons and at specific times of the year. That management doesn’t work if people just hunt whenever and wherever they want.

 

[HilltopHitman]

No chance they got location data from personal electronic devices prior to having a warrant. That’s completely illegal. Even the CIA isn’t “allowed” to do that.

Someone reported him, and it was probably someone close to him.

I’ve been saying this… Idaho fish and game is everywhere and is very good at their jobs. Somebody ousted him. Which I am glad they did.

I’m starting to wonder if MT will investigate his bull from last year…

 

[MTMeatHunter]

Talk about inadvertent spot burning. Who else wants to go hunt that unit now!? Amiright???

 

[grfox92]

Yes, this was known quite a while ago. They already collected phones, computers, etc.

His house has been on the market for 56 days. So Id say it was just slow to get out.

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[mt terry d]

Trust the system that hopefully he gets the appropriate justice if he truly did what he’s being accused of.

The “system” has nothing to do with justice. A “just”ruling is only by accident
It’s a legal system In a “court of law” legality trumps morality and justice It’s what it is.
The reason Lady Justice is blindfolded isn’t for the reasons we’ve been taught.

I don’t know the current situation in MT but it used to be that if you just paid the fine you kept hunting privileges but if you contested it and lost you could lose hunting privileges in several states for several years if the judge so decided. And he’d probably decide to make an example of you for not just bowing to authority
Made it easy for the F&G to generate $$$ with little effort.
Be a good citizen and all that jazz. Don’t rock the boat.

I’d really like to hear his explanation from his lips.

 

[Dark timber]

Talk about inadvertent spot burning. Who else wants to go hunt that unit now!? Amiright???

Haha try killing a buck like that in 21 without a controlled tag…one of all 5 of them.

 

[HilltopHitman]

Haha try killing a buck like that in 21 without a controlled tag…one of all 5 of them.

Yeah hahaha. It’s a nasty unit with low deer numbers until December when the deer winter there. Why do you think lampers was allegedly hunting there in December a couple miles from the road

 

[MTMeatHunter]

Haha try killing a buck like that in 21 without a controlled tag…one of all 5 of them.

I’m just going for a chance at a cat and a wolf in the same trip! Those odds are probably less than getting one of those five tags!

 

[Clark33]

No, you said my honest comment was the most boneheaded comment on the web today, so I'll ask again.
What reason is that exactly? For what reason was Unit 21 and Unit 28 separated into distinct units? If this is the most obvious thing since slicing bread surely you can explain it to me.

Im gonna take a WILD A$$ GUESS and say the freaking salmon river and breaks associated with it, would be the reason. Nice natural barrier that seperates herds... for the most part.

 

[ThorM465]

Im gonna take a WILD A$$ GUESS and say the freaking salmon river and breaks associated with it, would be the reason. Nice natural barrier that seperates herds... for the most part.

Assuming you're right it's an arbitrary separation not based in best managing the wildlife. So then why should I get this upset about a guy going a unit over?
I'm not saying we shouldn't follow these rules. I'm simply looking for a little perspective.

 

[HONEYBADGER]

It a

No chance they got location data from personal electronic devices prior to having a warrant. That’s completely illegal. Even the CIA isn’t “allowed” to do that.

Someone reported him, and it was probably someone close to him.

It sure sounds like they were electronically surveilling him which means they had a warrant to do so which means they had probable cause to obtain a warrant which means he has likely done this before and someone told the cops so they knew what to look for and when.....

Y'all need to watch The Wire so you know how this stuff works.

 

[Customweld]

Assuming you're right it's an arbitrary separation not based in best managing the wildlife.

It’s also about managing people. He allegedly killed a buck in a unit that was closed. He wasn’t supposed to be hunting there. This isn’t the 1930’s anymore, you can’t hunt wherever, whenever.

 

[thinhorn_AK]

Talk about inadvertent spot burning. Who else wants to go hunt that unit now!? Amiright???

Probably. I bet he saw the writing on the wall and realized that he was going to lose his right to hunt in Idaho. Hope they get him somehow so he can’t hunt in other states.

 

[Clark33]

Assuming you're right it's an arbitrary separation not based in best managing the wildlife. So then why should I get this upset about a guy going a unit over?
I'm not saying we shouldn't follow these rules. I'm simply looking for a little perspective.

Youre right... why do we have state borders, or international borders for that matter. You're turning me into a globalist by god!

 

[wyogoat]

It a

It sure sounds like they were electronically surveilling him which means they had a warrant to do so which means they had probable cause to obtain a warrant which means he has likely done this before and someone told the cops so they knew what to look for and when.....

Y'all need to watch The Wire so you know how this stuff works.

One thing about cell phone historical location data is that they don’t need your phone, JUST your phone number and carrier to get that information with a warrant. I bet they got a tip then corroborated that info. They did the same thing with the Idaho homicide if you read the affidavit from that. Pretty basic investigative work anymore.

 

[wapitibob]

No chance they got location data from personal electronic devices prior to having a warrant. That’s completely illegal. Even the CIA isn’t “allowed” to do that.

Someone reported him, and it was probably someone close to him.

He was cited in Dec '24, likely they had a warrant soon after for both phone and hunt app data.

 

[Bugger]

Assuming you're right it's an arbitrary separation not based in best managing the wildlife. So then why should I get this upset about a guy going a unit over?
I'm not saying we shouldn't follow these rules. I'm simply looking for a little perspective.

Why might you get upset over a guy going a unit over?
Why should you follow these rules?