Help me out... I rattled another nx8

[Wrench]

I agree. Have you tried the cushioned scabbards?
Crazy but I had a Japanese Armsport scope on a Remington 742 that rode the rack of a 91 trx300 for almost 10 years without blowing.

This was in a koplin gun boot with a padded sleeve. The boot may be worse than just racks as being elevated it gets to oscillating pretty bad.

 

[Matt5266]

Id sell that machine first, I can only imagine what it's doing to your spine.

 

[Fowl Play]

I rattled another nx8 and I'm low on confidence now. I am considering a maven but would like to see an actual set of images at a target of any kind that are taken at the same time/place as another scope....preferably a tenmile, lrhs, zeiss, nx8, mark5 or atacr so I can get an idea of what I should expect.

I have had horrible luck finding anything other than my bushnells that can survive the ride on my ol' trx300 racks.

I'm thinking of selling off all of my nightforce scopes if the maven will be as tough as the bushnell.

I am running plans in my head to build a test bench that mimics the ride in my racks to be able to see if a scope will survive. The ride in my racks was bad and the koplin case looks like a sewing machine when I am bombing around.

When you say rattled, what do you mean? Lost zero, broke the scope?

How do you know it’s not the scope mounts?

 

[BRTreedogs]

How tight does the rifle fit in the gun boot?
Can’t it bang around in there?

I’ve always thought that looks like the most terrible way to transport a rifle.

I bolted a harbor freight rifle case across the front rack. My quad has rack extensions and I used little u bolts and cut them off and ground them down best I could.

And the rifle is in foam and can’t bang around.

 

[Wrench]

When you say rattled, what do you mean? Lost zero, broke the scope?

How do you know it’s not the scope mounts?

Both.

I suspect it's not the mounts when it does this....

 

[Balderdash]

How tight does the rifle fit in the gun boot?
Can’t it bang around in there?

I’ve always thought that looks like the most terrible way to transport a rifle.

I bolted a harbor freight rifle case across the front rack. My quad has rack extensions and I used little u bolts and cut them off and ground them down best I could.

And the rifle is in foam and can’t bang around.

I've ran a couple of Kolpin gun boots for near 30 years. Ive never used the actual mounting hardware for them. Only strap them to a rack of an ATV or tossed them in the back of a PU or UTV. Have had a few scopes go wonky, but based on them giving up the ghost during shooting sessions, I figured it was more recoil than rattling around. My rifle rigs certainly do their share of bouncing about on rough roads, but I've always thought the various Gun Boots I've ran have done a good job of keeping the rifles in good condition.

 

[BRTreedogs]

I've ran a couple of Kolpin gun boots for near 30 years. Ive never used the actual mounting hardware for them. Only strap them to a rack of an ATV or tossed them in the back of a PU or UTV. Have had a few scopes go wonky, but based on them giving up the ghost during shooting sessions, I figured it was more recoil than rattling around. My rifle rigs certainly do their share of bouncing about on rough roads, but I've always thought the various Gun Boots I've ran have done a good job of keeping the rifles in good condition.

It’s been years since I looked at one
But If the rifle can wiggle back and forth in it.
That’s a lot of G forces.

 

[mxgsfmdpx]

No bueno!

Both.

I suspect it's not the mounts when it does this....

 

[Pronghunter]

In case I forget, if ever in the future I decide to purchase a scope from @Wrench, someone please knock me over the head.

 

[Fowl Play]

Both.

I suspect it's not the mounts when it does this....

Man… if you’re killing an NX8 I wouldn’t subject another scope to that abuse to test it out. A Maven is going to have the same fate.

Likely vibration fatigue of the internals. I’d make sure the rifle fits tighter in the scabbard with foam and stiffen up the supports of the scabbard itself, so it’s not flopping all over the place. Can you center the scabbard better in relation to the wheels so it benefits from the suspension some more?

 

[Formidilosus]

Both.

I suspect it's not the mounts when it does this....

Is the current one doing that?

 

[mj23polaris]

Maybe look at what’s causing the issue and not the scope? I’ve had 2 nx8s for a few years now and my one 4-32 has thousands out rounds shot with it doing PRS, NRL hunter and hunting. It’s always live in NF rings or mount. It has never let me down and has always held zero.


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[Steve300xcw]

Maybe look at what’s causing the issue and not the scope? I’ve had 2 nx8s for a few years now and my one 4-32 has thousands out rounds shot with it doing PRS, NRL hunter and hunting. It’s always live in NF rings or mount. It has never let me down and has always held zero.

How many miles have those scopes spent riding on 30+ year old atv suspension?

 

[Balderdash]

It’s been years since I looked at one
But If the rifle can wiggle back and forth in it.
That’s a lot of G forces.

I can definitely see how the mount exaggerates movement forces by adding distance from the original point of pivot/movement. By strapping to the rack and or just setting in the truck bed or UTV box, there's still forces being applied, but its not as exacerbated as when the mount is used.

There's likely better options out there. Didn't gave it a lot of thought until reading through this thread. Any chance you can grab a Pic of the HF set up you're running?

 

[Wrench]

Is the current one doing that?

I don't think so....but it's still on that rig. I just grabbed another and headed back out.

 

[MuleyFever]

Maybe look at what’s causing the issue and not the scope?

My thought too. If you have broken 2 NF scopes then the conditions are there to break any scope. Sure one might last a little longer than the last one but there is no reason to think that any scope will last forever. I wouldn't have much confidence taking that set up out hunting knowing its just a matter of time before I get to my spot and pull out my rifle and find another broken scope.

 

[Formidilosus]

I don't think so....but it's still on that rig. I just grabbed another and headed back out.

When you get a chance, pull it and see if you will. If it shifted multiple inches, it’ll be rattling.

 

[mj23polaris]

How many miles have those scopes spent riding on 30+ year old atv suspension?

It lives on the floor of my truck when I go to matches or hunting, if it’s in the sxs it’s buttstock on the floor leaning against the seat. I’m not going to type all the incidents that’s it’s been though to try to prove a point. Im just saying I wouldn’t be surprised if you did the same thing to maven or another “tough” scope. Maybe sling the rifle on your back or across your body for now on.


Just realized your not the OP, figured with that kinda response you where


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[Wrench]

In case I forget, if ever in the future I decide to purchase a scope from @Wrench, someone please knock me over the head.

My shit gets hard miles. I'm not dropping it on a pillow.

 

[43.6N]

Sheesh @Wrench
I was recently reading your other thread about breaking a scope.

Dude, if there was ever a guy who needed backup iron sights it’s you.