This has nothing to do with caliber and everything to do with you.I want it to be elk capable for 600-650 yards.
280 AI will be in my safe when I get back into reloading. I sold all my stuff 10years ago when I moved.I'll throw the 280 ackley into the mix. Less powder and recoil than the prc and has decent factory offerings.
308 is a great choice too. I have a Kimber Montana that has had the barrel cut back to shoot suppressed. The gun all up is like 6lb 6oz that’s with a trijicon accupoint 3-9, SiCo scythe and warne mountain tech scope rings.Every time I see one of these thread’s pop up I want to say 308 but sadly I have to agree with you.
I shame she's not a more popular cartridge. 120 Ballistic tips at 3250 have let the air out of a lot of PA bucks at the hands of a family friend.284 Winchester.
There, I did it. Secret’s out. Let the new trend begin.
6.5 Creedmoor or 6.5 PRC is kind of the easy button here.
My real world recommendation would be 6mm creedmoor (mainly for ammo and rifle availability) but seeing as he specifically stated "Nothing below 6.5 and nothing above 30 cal" I wasn't exactly going to press him to change his mind. For what he stated the 6.5 creedmoor and PRC offer good factory ammo that is priced fairly well and typically available. Neither of them, but especially the creedmoor, recoil very harshly, and even at that trying to tell someone the 6.5 creed is a 650yd elk gun if certain requirements are met (mainly bullet choice) can cause fights if they carry the traditional beliefs on what kills game.In what universe is a "600-650 yard elk capable CaLiBeR" any sort of "easy button"?
Throwing out random bullet diameters and various chamberings has nothing to do with killing elk. This should be near the bottom of OP's "list" for attempting to kill animals at 600-650 yards.
OP, my 22 creedmoor shooting 80 grain bullets is elk capable at 600-650 yards for several reasons.
.I've shot, practiced, and killed with it out to 1,200 yards.
.I've confirmed ballistics gel results with reduced loads simulating long range impacts.
.I've confirmed reliable upset in tissue/bone out to 1,200 yards on coyotes.
.I've killed a mature bull moose with it at 523 yards.
The list goes on...
My 7mm Rem Mag shooting 162 grain bullets is elk capable at 600-650 yards for similar reasons.
My .243 shooting 95 grain bullets is elk capable at 600-650 yards for similar reasons.
My .260 Rem and 6.5 CM shooting 129 grain bullets is elk capable at 600-650 yards for similar reasons.
The list goes on.
Blindly throwing out a rifle bullet diameter and chambering and claiming it's a 600-650 yard "elk killer" makes zero sense.
Based on what I've seen in hundreds of shooters from all different backgrounds and abilities, when shooting at animals in non-ideal conditions and non-ideal "rests/positions" 100/100 shooters will shoot the lighter recoiling cartridge more consistently accurately. Of the rifles I mentioned above, all of which can kill an elk at 600-650 yards, I would choose the 22 Creedmoor and will be doing so later this Fall in Wyoming to kill an elk.
This is the rant the OP didn't know he needed.In what universe is a "600-650 yard elk capable CaLiBeR" any sort of "easy button"?
Throwing out random bullet diameters and various chamberings has nothing to do with killing elk. This should be near the bottom of OP's "list" for attempting to kill animals at 600-650 yards.
OP, my 22 creedmoor shooting 80 grain bullets is elk capable at 600-650 yards for several reasons.
.I've shot, practiced, and killed with it out to 1,200 yards.
.I've confirmed ballistics gel results with reduced loads simulating long range impacts.
.I've confirmed reliable upset in tissue/bone out to 1,200 yards on coyotes.
.I've killed a mature bull moose with it at 523 yards.
The list goes on...
My 7mm Rem Mag shooting 162 grain bullets is elk capable at 600-650 yards for similar reasons.
My .243 shooting 95 grain bullets is elk capable at 600-650 yards for similar reasons.
My .260 Rem and 6.5 CM shooting 129 grain bullets is elk capable at 600-650 yards for similar reasons.
The list goes on.
Blindly throwing out a rifle bullet diameter and chambering and claiming it's a 600-650 yard "elk killer" makes zero sense.
Based on what I've seen in hundreds of shooters from all different backgrounds and abilities, when shooting at animals in non-ideal conditions and non-ideal "rests/positions" 100/100 shooters will shoot the lighter recoiling cartridge more consistently accurately. Of the rifles I mentioned above, all of which can kill an elk at 600-650 yards, I would choose the 22 Creedmoor and will be doing so later this Fall in Wyoming to kill an elk.