Help LS Wild design the new stock!

[hereinaz]

Here are a couple of pics that show the Master Sporter grip from Bluumoon vs another vertical grip stock that is ambidextrous.

Ours will remove the boxiness under the tang.

 

[hereinaz]

Sounds great! How about the barrel channel? Are you doing multiple or just like a proof sendero?

It’s gonna be Sendero.

 

[BLJ]

The grip won’t be ambidextrous?

 

[hereinaz]

The grip won’t be ambidextrous?

The master sporter is not.

I anticipate doing the same stock but ambidextrous. I may even have them finished without the bolt handle slot so I can make them right or left. Just need to confirm numbers with the maker and costs.

The setup cost to make both should be about the same.

If demand is higher for non-master sporter, maybe we do that.

 

[Gstew1930]

The master sporter is not.

I anticipate doing the same stock but ambidextrous. I may even have them finished without the bolt handle slot so I can make them right or left. Just need to confirm numbers with the maker and costs.

The setup cost to make both should be about the same.

If demand is higher for non-master sporter, maybe we do that.

Youre on the right track with the MS grip, dont change to appease the people who shoot with the wrong hand

 

[hereinaz]

Youre on the right track with the MS grip, dont change to appease the people who shoot with the wrong hand

LOL,

We can mirror the design and have them cut some for lefties too. Just need to get the costs nailed down.

 

[hereinaz]

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Interesting that this design hasn't been mentioned yet. It's a pretty reasonable weight, laminated, vertical grip. If the butt/comb were raised a bit, and the finger ridges on the grip eliminated, this would be pretty much exactly what I would want.

I have seen the GRS and like a lot, but the weirdness to me has never pushed me to try

 

[Schmo]

I have seen the GRS and like a lot, but the weirdness to me has never pushed me to try

Yeah they do some funky stuff

 

[hereinaz]

So you want to make the Spike Camp into the Boyd's Quest? LOL

Similar, but I would open the whole window, and keep the toe and comb lines, except there would be the top bar that goes across and the hand goes under.

I think that would be the lightest design with a grip that centers the hand.

It is a design we talked about before settling on the Master Sporter and/or ambidextrous grip version I drew out.

 

[hereinaz]

If that’s the case, just make sure an OG on a 16” barrel will fit with clearance.

My 14” with OG will fit, so we are good!

 

[Wilfred]

Here are a couple of pics that show the Master Sporter grip from Bluumoon vs another vertical grip stock that is ambidextrous.

Ours will remove the boxiness under the tang.

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If by “boxiness” you are referring to the flat sloping area immediately behind the tang, please tread carefully. That area on the Master Sporter/Tikka Sporter allows the shooter to rest the thumb straight pointed at the tang, rather than rolled over the grip (as shown in the photo). When the thumb is directly in line with the bore, the grip does not feel boxy at all.

 

[hereinaz]

IMO weight be damned….

Take the cz 457 MTR stock shape, cut 2” off the bottom of the rear of the stock (so it’s like a straight BR style stock.

Instead of pissing with inlets put in an aluminum mini chassis.

Cut the barrel channel huge and let people piss and moan about it.

Ohh and just use an aics bottom metal for tikkas (Hawkins). Tikka mags are just a pain for stock makers apparently.

Yes, the CZ MTR is an inspiration, I have never shot it or the Master Sporter, but I do delved the MTR once. I like the thumbhole and KRG XRay for hand placement, and have shot them. They are similar to the others.

Yes, barrel channel will be Sendero or larger. And, large relief pockets will be cut underneath.

Yes, I want to see about the AICS options out there. So much easier for me and what I am used to.

 

[hereinaz]

If by “boxiness” you are referring to the flat sloping area immediately behind the tang, please tread carefully. That area on the Master Sporter/Tikka Sporter allows the shooter to rest the thumb straight pointed at the tang, rather than rolled over the grip (as shown in the photo). When the thumb is directly in line with the bore, the grip does not feel boxy at all.

I talked with Bluumoon about this, and he can’t easily rest his thumb up that. My thumb wouldn’t either.

The goal is to remove the boxiness but still allow the thumb to rest in line with the bore.

Also, for hunting, I want that cleaner to easier gross motor when transitioning from bolt to grip.

Interested to hear your comments and feedback on that line of thought.

 

[Bluumoon]

If by “boxiness” you are referring to the flat sloping area immediately behind the tang, please tread carefully. That area on the Master Sporter/Tikka Sporter allows the shooter to rest the thumb straight pointed at the tang, rather than rolled over the grip (as shown in the photo). When the thumb is directly in line with the bore, the grip does not feel boxy at all.

Maybe I don’t understand the magic (it was likely put there very intentionally) of that boxy part, and I do generally shoot it w my thumb as you describe, just seem extraneous.

 

[Bluumoon]

I’ve screwed up some really nice Walnut trying to diy some stocks, at least w laminate I won’t feel bad carving on one if it needs it.

 

[Wilfred]

I talked with Bluumoon about this, and he can’t easily rest his thumb up that. My thumb wouldn’t either.

The goal is to remove the boxiness but still allow the thumb to rest in line with the bore.

Also, for hunting, I want that cleaner to easier gross motor when transitioning from bolt to grip.

Interested to hear your comments and feedback on that line of thought.

Certainly, thanks for listening. I will look for pictures that I recall seeing of other shooters using the MS and my recollection is that the straight up thumb position is what they all use. I’m not sure it is magic, but that thumb position is much more comfortable for me and my hand size (large gloves). For me, laying the thumb over the grip when the cutout places the meaty portion of the hand at the base of the thumb much closer to the line of the bore than most any other stock, is awkward.
I have never previously thought about the transition from grip to bolt and back based on thumb position with the MS but will try some transitions and post my thoughts. Theoretically however, a straight up thumb requires less movement to reach the bolt knob and return.