Help LS Wild design the new stock!

[BBob]

FWIW Glen Eberle of Eberlestock started out making lightweight composite biathlon stocks (he was a USA Olympic Team Biathlete). At one time he made a very light laminated wood carbon hunting stock. If I recall it had two vertically oriented carbon layers. He was more aggressive with the rear cutout than what your example shows. They were quite beautiful and I tried like heck to get him to make more but he wouldn't. Too focused on packs at the time and let the stocks go. It's been years since I've seen a picture of the full stock but the buttstock still shows up in some of his pack pictures. Good luck on your endeavor

 

[Castle Rock]

Drill a hole through the stock so you can run a cleaning rod, and bore sight through the barrel .
A lot of dramas can be avoided by bore sighting.

 

[Bluumoon]

Drill a hole through the stock so you can run a cleaning rod, and bore sight through the barrel .
A lot of dramas can be avoided by bore sighting.

I’ve started moving up to 25 yards to get on paper r/t not being able to bore sight. I like the drilled hole idea though

 

[Chris in TN]

From feedback I already reached out for, any thumbhole type, even very large and open, is not wanted by many serious users.

Well you definitely have to keep the 'serious users' happy.

lol.

I’ve started moving up to 25 yards to get on paper r/t not being able to bore sight. I like the drilled hole idea though

You can always remove the stock for initial boresighting.

 

[Mtndawger]

This stock is a fantastic idea. I have considered purchasing a Boyd’s or similar and doing my own lightening cuts to see where I could get the weight. I wonder if a buttressed cutout in the rear (multiple smaller holes)would address your issues with strength near the wrist area? Also potential lightening cuts/ventilation type holes in the forend. Aluminum pillars possible but no full length bedding block for me. No thumb holes please. Offer a simple proof of concept for a base price with add ons for the extras people are wanting. Inlet for one of the aftermarket AICS bottom metals among them. Side quick release swivels with 1/4 turn inserts not fully rotating and optional bottom or side. 30 oz plus or minus and I’m a buyer.

 

[NWBLKTAIL]

I’ve started moving up to 25 yards to get on paper r/t not being able to bore sight. I like the drilled hole idea though

I shoot with an older fella who does this everytime he puts a new scope on

 

[JFK]

Probably a more complex way of getting weight out of the stock but milling wood out of the butt end would be the best of both worlds. I had a spare wood stock a few years back and did this with auger bits and got quite a bit of weight out of it.

 

[Chris in TN]

FWIW it’s not impossible to make a comfortable VFG laminate with a decently strong wrist. But a bridge across the top would be stronger.

Everything is always a compromise.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Drill a hole through the stock so you can run a cleaning rod, and bore sight through the barrel .
A lot of dramas can be avoided by bore sighting.

A solution in search of a problem.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

Probably a more complex way of getting weight out of the stock but milling wood out of the butt end would be the best of both worlds. I had a spare wood stock a few years back and did this with auger bits and got quite a bit of weight out of it.

I’m fairly sure that is what Mike does with the RokStoks.

 

[Bluumoon]

Probably a more complex way of getting weight out of the stock but milling wood out of the butt end would be the best of both worlds. I had a spare wood stock a few years back and did this with auger bits and got quite a bit of weight out of it.

Not sure what kind of machining the maker has, but I drilled the crap out of my last one and didn’t drop nearly as much weight as I wanted. Ended up cutting a window after drilling and dropped an additional 5oz.

I’m convinced Mike at Alpine is a wizard getting the weight out he does.

 

[Q_Sertorius]

I like the idea of a good wooden stock that doesn’t cost $2500, but I think a lot of the suggestions in this thread come from the realm of the good idea fairy. Keep it simple if you want to stay on track with your price point, functionality, and weight goals.

 

[Ajsomp]

If it comes in around 30 oz, I’m in. The rokstok lite looks and seems to be more my speed for what I want from a hunting stock. But 2k per wood stock isn’t realistic for me.

I assume you’ve taken some cues from the gunwerks endex chassis as a reference to this project? Seems similar, but maybe that’s just my interpretation

 

[Lawnboi]

IMO weight be damned….

Take the cz 457 MTR stock shape, cut 2” off the bottom of the rear of the stock (so it’s like a straight BR style stock.

Instead of pissing with inlets put in an aluminum mini chassis.

Cut the barrel channel huge and let people piss and moan about it.

Ohh and just use an aics bottom metal for tikkas (Hawkins). Tikka mags are just a pain for stock makers apparently.

 

[JFK]

Not sure what kind of machining the maker has, but I drilled the crap out of my last one and didn’t drop nearly as much weight as I wanted. Ended up cutting a window after drilling and dropped an additional 5oz.

I’m convinced Mike at Alpine is a wizard getting the weight out he does.

To do it at scale you would need some kind of automation in a mill where you put the stock into a jig and a mill does it. Having a person do it would be too labor intensive.

 

[RyanT26]

Buttstock gives off Romania psl vibes

 

[Foster_65]

A lightweight version, sub 30 oz, would be great. I’m sure it would have to be skeletonized considerably due to the laminate wood, but would be sweet to have a properly designed wood stock for us that can’t justify $2k for a Rokstok Lite.. despite how beautiful they are.

Agree on the sub 30oz. Would like to see closer to 26 but not sure that’s possible. I also would like to see a sporter barrel channel as well as a heavy. Understand the function of the large channel on a sporter barrel just not a fan of the look handing a sporter barrel and a huge gap.

 

[Sundodger]

i would vote to do a proper sandwich composite stock.

I wish someone could explain to me why the firearm industry refuses to adopt technology that even the absurdly behind the times recreational marine industry has used mainstream since the 1960’s.

 

[Bluumoon]

Agree on the sub 30oz. Would like to see closer to 26 but not sure that’s possible. I also would like to see a sporter barrel channel as well as a heavy. Understand the function of the large channel on a sporter barrel just not a fan of the look handing a sporter barrel and a huge gap.

I don’t think under 30oz is feasible, even 30oz is prob a stretch. They are wanting wood stock w chassis attributes. Wild guess, but I’d bet it lands closer to 36oz at least and that ain’t bad.

 

[HuntHarder]

I was gonna guess closer to 40ish ounces. Time will tell. Always good to see innovation tho.