Help LS Wild design the new stock!

[rafiki]

We’d be willing to pursue this, but then the question would be: Are purchasers willing to pay an additional $100-$150 to have an aluminum bedding block that runs the length of the action?

this would add quite a bit of weight. grayboe's is 14oz. their lightest stock that uses it is 40oz

 

[B_Reynolds_AK]

A lightweight version, sub 30 oz, would be great. I’m sure it would have to be skeletonized considerably due to the laminate wood, but would be sweet to have a properly designed wood stock for us that can’t justify $2k for a Rokstok Lite.. despite how beautiful they are.

 

[Bluumoon]

Sure, but I have to ask what weight you’re wanting?

Enough to make me like shooting the catridge. 40oz isn't enough. If I'm being honest I'm just struggling to find a reason to keep/shoot out the 7PRC. I'd guess 13 lbs total rifle weight would make it more enjoyable.

 

[Schmo]

A lightweight version, sub 30 oz, would be great. I’m sure it would have to be skeletonized considerably due to the laminate wood, but would be sweet to have a properly designed wood stock for us that can’t justify $2k for a Rokstok Lite.. despite how beautiful they are.

Our goal is light as possible without being stupid. If we could get it to 30 oz, I’d be stoked.

And that’s where I’m at on the wood Rokstok. Mike does an absolutely beautiful job, but I can’t justify $2k on one for quite awhile. A quality laminate stock that accomplishes most of the same things for probably less than a quarter of the price is super justifiable.

 

[Bluumoon]

Enough to make me like shooting the catridge. 40oz isn't enough. If I'm being honest I'm just struggling to find a reason to keep/shoot out the 7PRC. I'd guess 13 lbs total rifle weight would make it more enjoyable.

Honestly I wouldn't worry about a heavy version from the get go, you are on the right track.

 

[Schmo]

Honestly I wouldn't worry about a heavy version from the get go, you are on the right track.

If there were enough demand, it’s possible we’d do a special group buy down the road on a non-windowed heavy version.

Things seem simple on the surface, but even deleting the window requires the designer to make the changes, and then the operator to re-program the CNC at the manufacturer. Both people would charge for those changes, so even something that simple is not without incurred costs.

 

[43.6N]

Our goal is light as possible without being stupid. If we could get it to 30 oz, I’d be stoked.

And that’s where I’m at on the wood Rokstok. Mike does an absolutely beautiful job, but I can’t justify $2k on one for quite awhile. A quality laminate stock that accomplishes most of the same things for probably less than a quarter of the price is super justifiable.

Honestly 30 oz is about perfect. Not too heavy. Not too light. Especially if you can do it without all the adjustable add ons that usually raise the weight.

 

[43.6N]

If there were enough demand, it’s possible we’d do a special group buy down the road on a non-windowed heavy version.

Things seem simple on the surface, but even deleting the window requires the designer to make the changes, and then the operator to re-program the CNC at the manufacturer. Both people would charge for those changes, so even something that simple is not without incurred costs.

A better option for the heavyweight crowd (including myself), might be to make laminate modules that are compatible with the KRG aluminum backbone.
Down the road of course. Please don’t get too bogged down from the original vision while trying to make everyone happy.

 

[Schmo]

Honestly 30 oz is about perfect. It too heavy. Not too light. Especially if you can do it with all the adjustable add ons that usually raise the weight.

Yes. If people want to DIY adjustable add-ons, they can go for it. They just add weight and a lot of cost. The price point (I won’t currently estimate) should be within the grasp of almost everyone.

These being wood laminate, modifications and customizations are pretty easily done DIY versus something from the carbon fiber market.

 

[BLJ]

Our goal is light as possible without being stupid. If we could get it to 30 oz, I’d be stoked.

And that’s where I’m at on the wood Rokstok. Mike does an absolutely beautiful job, but I can’t justify $2k on one for quite awhile. A quality laminate stock that accomplishes most of the same things for probably less than a quarter of the price is super justifiable.

30 ounces for under $500 in the style of the original post would be very good.

 

[Schmo]

30 ounces for under $500 in the style of the original post would be very good.

I’m speculating that 30-36 ounces is attainable. Obviously, we’d love to be on the low end of that. Absolutely no guarantees tho. Once we have a final CAD design, I’m sure we could get a fairly accurate estimate of weight.

 

[Gravel Road]

Looks great. Keep it simple and affordable and it will be a winner.

 

[Wilfred]

The top of the buttpad/comb will be at bore centerline, then slope negatively from that point. Maybe with a slight radiused slope as pictured instead of a straight angle. We are pretty insistent that the bolt be able to be removed while the action is in the stock, so we will be doing our best to accommodate that.



Laminate is layered in the same direction, so some geometries can’t be accomplished with laminate. At the wrist, you have to have material above the datum line of the bottom of the forend. Meaning: material at the wrist above the red line in the following picture. Doesn’t have to be a ton, but at least 3/8” or 1/2”.

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If you give up the idea of an ambidextrous design you can put the necessary strengthening material well above the datum line on the opposite side of the grip. On left side for a right handed stock and on the right for a left handed one.

 

[SBR Sarge]

Shout it from the rooftops!!!!!

Preaching it brother!

 

[nm.otter]

If you give up the idea of an ambidextrous design

Please do -- properly handed stocks with a bit of a cheekpiece are far nicer to shoot than the current trend of crazy narrow 'ambidextrous' tail sections.

Also a request for Sako 85/90 inletting options. Close enough to T3x that they shouldn't require a redesign.

 

[Schmo]

All (well, except for the double posting cowboy ) - thanks for the input. Keep it coming. I’m out for tonight and all of tomorrow. Be back in here on Monday to interact. Thanks!

 

[SloppyJ]

Someone else said it but bring the toe line of the buttstock up above the bottom of the grip. Could save weight and it looks so much better.

 

[Brandon.miller.4]

Not sure if im alone here but Im fond of the mcmillan elr hunter. Its the only stock I have found that does not have any compromises for ME.

The spacer system for the adjustable comb is clever. All the adjustability without the weight. Who needs quick adjustability honestly?

The scalloped front rail is great for hunts where I want a bipod and the rail is out of the way/snag free when i dont need it.

The flush mount arca in front of the mag balances very well for tripod shooting.

Flat toe line is fine, i also dont mind a slight angle. A shallow slope on the toe line may sell better due to visual appeal.

I am impatiently waiting for someone to make an adjustable negative comb. Ive had it on a chassis gun, but never a hunting stock at hunting weights. Look forward to following this project.

 

[Moose83]

Our goal is light as possible without being stupid. If we could get it to 30 oz, I’d be stoked.

And that’s where I’m at on the wood Rokstok. Mike does an absolutely beautiful job, but I can’t justify $2k on one for quite awhile. A quality laminate stock that accomplishes most of the same things for probably less than a quarter of the price is super justifiable.

And available to Canadians?