Help LS Wild design the new stock!

[BLJ]

How short is too short?

I feel like I’ve said this to myself but never read this to myself…………….

 

[Schmo]

Rokstok Lite stock short. Mby do a short and a regular to cover everyones desires?

I'll echo Wind Gypsy's comments on it.

We’ll only be doing one length, but with laminate, guys can cut it down very easily.

 

[43.6N]

We’ll only be doing one length, but with laminate, guys can cut it down very easily.

If that’s the case, just make sure an OG on a 16” barrel will fit with clearance.

 

[BLJ]

If that’s the case, just make sure an OG on a 16” barrel will fit with clearance.

Agree with this.

Determine a benchmark by using a setup that will be very common for your customers.

OTB on a 16” barrel would be a good max for forearm length.

 

[BBob]

We’ll only be doing one length, but with laminate, guys can cut it down very easily.

I'd aim towards an alternative for the Rokstok, not a lite. The lite is aimed more narrow for the few that are into the really short compact lite thing. Rokstok is more general use but still highly functional. But that's your job to suss out which would be the most desired???

 

[Schmo]

I'd aim towards an alternative for the Rokstok, not a lite. The lite is aimed more narrow for the few that are into the really short compact lite thing. Rokstok is more general use but still highly functional. But that's your job to suss out which would be the most desired???

I understand what you’re saying. We do have to limit some dimensions just to hit an acceptable weight.
This will be a Rokstok alternative, not a copy. It will not look like a RS

 

[2buffalo]

How short is too short?

This is why nobody should take you or LS Wild seriously on this.

 

[Schmo]

This is why nobody should take you or LS Wild seriously on this.

The purpose of this entire thread is to get input from potential users. My opinion of too short and yours might be two very different things. I want to see what the consensus is.

 

[Escalante11]

There is only so many ways to design a stock optimally…

However, to be fair- that is exactly how it started. “I want to copy a ROKStok in wood or laminate and sell it cheaper”. LS Wild got called out in that thread for exactly that by others, and then functionally said he didn’t care and had no problem with copying items and making a cheaper version.
That’s whatever- it isn’t patented so people can do whatever they feel good about. But, don’t obfuscate and try to say it wasn’t exactly that. The original intent was “I want to make a cheaper version of a wood ROKStok, or a derivative therof, and sell it from my business”. That was the stated goal.

Lol what?! That is literally the exact same narrative you and your S2H partners have been talking about for over a year with the new S2H scope! That all started with you guys claiming you could deliver a Nightforce esque scope at 1/2 the price with some added subtle improvements (e.g., reticle).. I don't see Nightforce mumbling on online forums about the new S2H scope.

 

[Mik123]

Lol what?! That is literally the exact same narrative you and your S2H partners have been talking about for over a year with the new S2H scope! That all started with you guys claiming you could deliver a Nightforce esque scope at 1/2 the price with some added subtle improvements (e.g., reticle).. I don't see Nightforce mumbling on online forums about the new S2H scope.

Which nightforce model are they copying exactly?

 

[Escalante11]

Which nightforce model are they copying exactly?

They aren't "copying" anything, but S2H is bringing to market a scope that performs as a Nightforce, but at a much more attainable price point. That goal has been repeatedly stated. Ok with Form and his S2H partners.

Now, LS Wild is trying to bring to market a wood stock that performs similar to a Wood RokStok, but at a much more attainable price point.. Not ok with Form.

And while I don't know for certain who produces the new S2H ZeroTech Scope, it's probable that it is LOW... Or in other words, a majority of the components may be produced by the same manufacturer that is building Nightforce scopes... That'd be like LS Wild contracting Stocky's for the manufacturing. You just can't make this stuff up

As a consumer, I love that S2H brings great ideas/products to affordable price points. And I applaud LS Wild for trying to do the same on here of late.

 

[BBob]

Now, LS Wild is trying to bring to market a wood stock that performs similar to a Wood RokStok, but at a much more attainable price point.. Not ok with Form.

IMO He didn't really say that exactly. IMO he said a copy knockoff would be not okay. Now he did go on about some aspects that I don't think are proprietary ideas at all even if he stated those were goals of a Rokstok at the outset. Some of them were already being asked for prior to the Rokstok. I'm talking negative comb, short trigger reach for two.

 

[nm.otter]

while I don't know for certain who produces the new S2H ZeroTech Scope, it's probable that it is LOW

It's not probable -- it's confirmed, and has been since the original discussion.

in other words, a majority of the components may be produced by the same manufacturer that is building Nightforce scopes... That'd be like LS Wild contracting Stocky's for the manufacturing.

Not really. LOW is strictly an OEM and does not sell under its own brand.