Heater Body Suit still the best for cold stands?

[WanderingFarmer]

How many other layers and types do you wear underneath, and at what temps? I’m a baby with the cold and am reconsidering options. I’d especially like this if it reduces what I wear (and pack) overall.

Short answer, I wear what I find to be comfortable for a slow and observant walk to my stand. It absolutely cuts down on the number of pieces of clothing I pack in. I also pre-load things I will want in my stand in the pockets then roll it up and carry the whole thing in. All told, I'm much happier with the IWOM than I ever was with coveralls or bibs and a parka.

If moving, I stay warm pretty easily but I have what I jokingly call a "low idle" - when I'm still or sleeping, I need about 10-15 degrees more insulation than most people I'm with. The details for me are as follows:

35-45 degrees

• Legs: un-insulated rubber boots with wool socks, kuiu peloton 97 base layer, FL Corrugate Guide pant
• Torso: 150 wt wool base layer, some generic grid fleece, FL corrugate guide jacket (un-insulated soft shell)
• Gloves: minus 33 wool glove liners, and use the built in hand muff
• Hat: 150 wt wool beanie

25-35 degrees

• Legs, same as above, but add toe warmers
• Torso: add a light puffy, comparable to a FL Brooks down
• Gloves: same
• Hat: 200 wt wool balaclava. I'm partial to the First Lite Wind River with the ear holes.

15-25 degrees Only done this range once, but wore the following

• Legs: Same layers, but used a synthetic hiking boot and toe warmers. vastly warmer feet
• Torso: added a Pnuma heated vest
• Gloves: walking I used an insulated soft shell glove cause rifles are cold, same wool glove liners on stand
• Hat: same balaclava, added a knit hat.

 

[fwafwow]

Short answer, I wear what I find to be comfortable for a slow and observant walk to my stand. It absolutely cuts down on the number of pieces of clothing I pack in. I also pre-load things I will want in my stand in the pockets then roll it up and carry the whole thing in. All told, I'm much happier with the IWOM than I ever was with coveralls or bibs and a parka.

If moving, I stay warm pretty easily but I have what I jokingly call a "low idle" - when I'm still or sleeping, I need about 10-15 degrees more insulation than most people I'm with. The details for me are as follows:

35-45 degrees

• Legs: un-insulated rubber boots with wool socks, kuiu peloton 97 base layer, FL Corrugate Guide pant
• Torso: 150 wt wool base layer, some generic grid fleece, FL corrugate guide jacket (un-insulated soft shell)
• Gloves: minus 33 wool glove liners, and use the built in hand muff
• Hat: 150 wt wool beanie

25-35 degrees

• Legs, same as above, but add toe warmers
• Torso: add a light puffy, comparable to a FL Brooks down
• Gloves: same
• Hat: 200 wt wool balaclava. I'm partial to the First Lite Wind River with the ear holes.

15-25 degrees Only done this range once, but wore the following

• Legs: Same layers, but used a synthetic hiking boot and toe warmers. vastly warmer feet
• Torso: added a Pnuma heated vest
• Gloves: walking I used an insulated soft shell glove cause rifles are cold, same wool glove liners on stand
• Hat: same balaclava, added a knit hat.

This is extremely helpful - thank you. I've gone down to the ~25 range for an all day sit, and I only lasted (in part) due to the amount of rut activity that kept my blood going. I did that with Sitka Incinerator jacket and Fanatic bibs (hat, gaiter, hand warmer, etc.), plus an embarrassing number of layers beneath - including a Pnuma heated vest (and I now have the heated LJs). But it's a pain, and that "system" was for just that temp setting (in Nebraska). Way overkill for GA and SC. But my packing and layering even for those locations is a PITA.