Hearing protection act (suppressors) introduced

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Why in the heck should I have to pay $200 in tax every time I buy a suppressor?

I can't stand liberal thinking like that.

It would take very little time and resources to close down the NFA starting tomorrow. And it would save taxpayers money.
Wildlife and wildlife habitat are important to me. A small fee to ensure my children and grandchildren can enjoy the same outdoor experiences I have enjoyed in my lifetime it's a small price to pay.

I could care less about the NFA...All I was proposing is move the current rev stream to fund wildlife conservation.

I forgot this is Rokslide, a gear site...I will take liberal wildlife conservation thinking elsewhere.
 
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I see no reason to spend money on something I don’t need. Just like I see no reason to “build” a 5k-10k rifle for hunting. No reason to have archery sights that cost $600 either or broadheads that cost over $100 for 3. The cost of hunting and the equipment we talk ourselves into that we think we need is getting ridiculous.
 

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Wildlife and wildlife habitat are important to me. A small fee to ensure my children and grandchildren can enjoy the same outdoor experiences I have enjoyed in my lifetime it's a small price to pay.

I could care less about the NFA...All I was proposing is move the current rev stream to fund wildlife conservation.

I forgot this is Rokslide, a gear site...I will take liberal wildlife conservation thinking elsewhere.
If you want to raise money for wildlife, that's great. I spend thousands per year for that specific purpose.

The issue is thinking it's okay to force others to do that through taxes. We should all have the right to support what we want.
 

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We're too dumb to understand that banning bumpstocks actually was good for the 2nd amendment, got it.
What it did for you was have the court rule that the executive branch cannot make laws. There have been MANY times that it's been done. In the past. Trump chose a piece that even if we lost wouldn't actually hurt us and used it to get the court to rule in our favor.

Step back a bit and look at what he did for our rights in the end....not the process and it should help.


And if you are simply anti fixing America, here's a peek at whats happening.

Listen to what this guy has audited so far. It should give you a link to a tweet that you can hear w/o Twitter.

 

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In the stack of pro-suppressor legislation, I like the SHUSH act the best: https://www.lee.senate.gov/services/files/6FF16693-375A-4212-99FC-8D837CE82C8B
Treat silencers like the firearm accessories they are.

I won’t be surprised if nothing gets passed under this administration and we are in the exact same position we’ve been in for years, but at least there’s a better chance than the last one.
A 5 page, easy to read bill that makes sense. I love it.
 

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If you want to raise money for wildlife, that's great. I spend thousands per year for that specific purpose.

The issue is thinking it's okay to force others to do that through taxes. We should all have the right to support what we want.
The link I posted above shows a sample of how badly we've been robbed while thinking we're doing well for the world. The fact is that we can't really trust anyone to do the right thing just yet.
 
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Wildlife and wildlife habitat are important to me. A small fee to ensure my children and grandchildren can enjoy the same outdoor experiences I have enjoyed in my lifetime it's a small price to pay.

I could care less about the NFA...All I was proposing is move the current rev stream to fund wildlife conservation.

I forgot this is Rokslide, a gear site...I will take liberal wildlife conservation thinking elsewhere.
Everyone here is for wildlife conservation. We all pay more than our fair share to conservation through the RP fund and the 3-12 states most of us apply for not to mention raffles and everything else we participate in. There’s no reason to make us pay another $200 for something that’ll protect our kids hearing and help provided an enjoyable experience.
 

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If demand is already high, why would a manufacturer lower prices?

My bet is there will be a huge run on cans if the NFA requirements are dropped and it would be about like trying to buy primers or powder during covid.

Long term prices would likely come down but likely not for a good while.
 
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If demand is already high, why would a manufacturer lower prices?

My bet is there will be a huge run on cans if the NFA requirements are dropped and it would be about like trying to buy primers or powder during covid.

Long term prices would likely come down but likely not for a good while.
That’s fine, I’ll wait. As it is right now they’re not really worth the hassle to me. I have 3 years until my sons hunting and that’s what I need them for.
 

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They have made suppressors for shotguns for a very long time.
Now your just gas lighting... Why would I want, for example, a shotgun something I will never put a supressor on to cost $200 bucks more, not to mention would almost double the cost of 22LR
 
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If you want to raise money for wildlife, that's great. I spend thousands per year for that specific purpose.

The issue is thinking it's okay to force others to do that through taxes. We should all have the right to support what we want.
If you think the goverment is going to give up a tax that has been on the books for almost a century, I want some of what your smoking on. It's a way easier lift to have the tax allocated to a specific fund.

This type of thinking is why these bills never get out of committe. I am willing to bet folks will still be wasting reasources in decade still trying to this bill to pass.
Good Luck!
 
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They have made suppressors for shotguns for a very long time.
I know and I still don't own one...I like a 28" barrel for ducks and geese no way I am going to try to swing that in blind.

Turkeys I like the barrel a short as possible so don't need a can there either.
 

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I’d be super curious if suppressor manufacturers actually want this passed. As is currently they’re a little harder to get thus a little more limited in supply meaning they can charge a lot for what’s a pretty simple device. If this passes and they’re readily available I’d guess prices will drop substantially
Suppressors are dirt cheap in countries where they are legal. If they become legal here, there will be 10x the manufacturers and competition for other companies. I personally don’t believe that these companies want their skills and products to be unrestricted.

My friend works at an aviation place and has access to all the equipment he needs, his boss as a license or whatever to make silencers and can make pretty good ones relatively quickly and for a fraction of the cost of buying from a current manufacturer. If this became legal, the prices would drop to compete with other manufacturers. Do you think companies like TBAC or SiCo want to have to make more products and sell them for less to compete???
 

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In the stack of pro-suppressor legislation, I like the SHUSH act the best: https://www.lee.senate.gov/services/files/6FF16693-375A-4212-99FC-8D837CE82C8B
Treat silencers like the firearm accessories they are.

I won’t be surprised if nothing gets passed under this administration and we are in the exact same position we’ve been in for years, but at least there’s a better chance than the last one.

Nothing will get passed. Even if they dismantle the ATF (they won’t) they will find another name for the tax that will take the place of the current tax stamp.
 
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