hammocks for hunt

[Llama32]

what are some of you guys using or want you have hammock wise set up for hunting, oct-nov hunting so it mit get cold

 

[twall13]

I'm not sure I understand your question, but I sleep in a hammock when hunting whenever possible. You have to know the area you are hunting has trees but with most places in the mountains the fact that I don't need to have flat ground to set up actually opens up new places to camp. It won't work above timberline and gets tough in the desert but I don't hunt either of those areas often so it works for me.

 

[nirvanafan]

I've been hammocking for a few years now. I've slept in it for close to 50 nights now and plan on taking my setup to CO this fall for a 1st rifle season hunt. I've slept in temperatures as high as 80 or 90 and as low as 20 without issue. The biggest issue with hammocks is figuring out the insulation. You have to have something below you (a pad or underquilt) in order to keep your backside warm.

Let us know if you have any questions. There are at least a few of us that sleep in a bear burrito.

 

[Bulldawg]

what are so of you guys think or that have hammocks set uo for hunting

Man you need to take some time when you type up a thread especially being so new, some guys are going to get the wrong idea about north central texas! haha

Sorry man I didn't mean harm but I don't really know what you are actually stating in that post.

 

[xziang]

It won't work above timberline.......

LOL BTW I loved this..

 

[Llama32]

well i will not have the above timberline problem a got the clark mark 2, just wanting to get some info on everything that goes with it

 

[twall13]

I don't have any experience with the Clark hammocks, though I've heard good things about them. If I remember correctly @Where's Bruce? uses a Clark and may be able to provide some specific insights with that setup. Generally speaking, you need good insulation under you to stay warm in a hammock. I use a Hammockgear Incubator rated for 20* on most trips as I never did like the condensation and other issues from a pad in a hammock. As far as insulation on top goes, topquilts were made for hammocks. They just work with a hammock.

There are socks, underquilt protectors, and a whole slew of other things to help you keep warm in a hammock but I've found with a decent tarp to block the wind I can get by in most situations. I use a Warbonnet Superfly as the doors work well for blocking the wind. The coldest I've slept in a hammock was 15* and I was fine. Any colder than that and I'd want an underquilt rated for lower temperatures.

Hopefully this is some of the info. you were after. If you have specific questions I'm happy to help where I can.

 

[SHTF]

Using a Warbonnet Ridge runner bridge hammock I flip flop between it and my Cimmeron throughout the year. Love the ridge runner because I'm a stomach sleeper


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[jspradley]

LOL BTW I loved this..

You just need tall, skinny rocks...

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[Chris Roe]

Check out the Amok Draumr. ...it allows you to sleep flat on your stomach, on your side (flat), or on your back very comfortably. As with all hammocks, they take some practice getting in and out of, but the Draumr - for me - is one of the best designs out there (I like to sleep on my side or stomach). I don't always use it, but when I need a hammock, I love it (I have about 20 or so nights in it so far).

A couple thoughts to go with the above:
1) If you're the type of sleeper that thrashes around a lot, this hammock may not be for you - it definitely requires you to stay "balanced" head-to-toe more than others, and if you're flailing around, the hammock may shift and the change in your front-to-back balance/orientation may cause you to wake you up. Fitful sleep isn't good sleep.
2) This hammock has a different "movement" than most others; because you sleep perpendicular to the axis you're hanging from, you have almost no side-to-side movement, but you do have front-to-back rocking movement. Not an issue IMO, just different.
3) It DOES require a specific sleeping pad/air mattress. ...I use the Exped Synmat LW.

Hope that helps.

 

[SHTF]

Check out the Amok Draumr. ...it allows you to sleep flat on your stomach, on your side (flat), or on your back very comfortably. As with all hammocks, they take some practice getting in and out of, but the Draumr - for me - is one of the best designs out there (I like to sleep on my side or stomach). I don't always use it, but when I need a hammock, I love it (I have about 20 or so nights in it so far).

A couple thoughts to go with the above:
1) If you're the type of sleeper that thrashes around a lot, this hammock may not be for you - it definitely requires you to stay "balanced" head-to-toe more than others, and if you're flailing around, the hammock may shift and the change in your front-to-back balance/orientation may cause you to wake you up. Fitful sleep isn't good sleep.
2) This hammock has a different "movement" than most others; because you sleep perpendicular to the axis you're hanging from, you have almost no side-to-side movement, but you do have front-to-back rocking movement. Not an issue IMO, just different.
3) It DOES require a specific sleeping pad/air mattress. ...I use the Exped Synmat LW.

Hope that helps.

Chris I remember watching your video about that Hammock. I was researching Hammocks at the time before I picked up my warbonnet. I noticed a few of those things you mentioned which is why I went with the Ridgerunner. Its a very cool concept though. Definitely not your run of the mill hammock.

 

[nirvanafan]

I use a Hammockgear Incubator rated for 20* on most trips as I never did like the condensation and other issues from a pad in a hammock.

I agree 100%. I can't recommend an underquilt enough. I tried using a pad a couple times. Even when the temperature got down to below freezing, I couldn't deal with the clamminess of a pad. It trapped all the moisture and made things uncomfortable to me. I use my Phoenix 40° underquilt for 30° and up and my Incubator 20° for anything below 30°. I've got 40° and 20° top quilts as well. I don't usually point people in the direction of other forums, but, if OP is really interested, check out hammockforums.net. They're going to have way more information than we could ever give.

 

[Llama32]

I have been on that forum just wanting to get a hunt side of it

 

[twall13]

Check out the Amok Draumr. ...it allows you to sleep flat on your stomach, on your side (flat), or on your back very comfortably. As with all hammocks, they take some practice getting in and out of, but the Draumr - for me - is one of the best designs out there (I like to sleep on my side or stomach). I don't always use it, but when I need a hammock, I love it (I have about 20 or so nights in it so far).

A couple thoughts to go with the above:
1) If you're the type of sleeper that thrashes around a lot, this hammock may not be for you - it definitely requires you to stay "balanced" head-to-toe more than others, and if you're flailing around, the hammock may shift and the change in your front-to-back balance/orientation may cause you to wake you up. Fitful sleep isn't good sleep.
2) This hammock has a different "movement" than most others; because you sleep perpendicular to the axis you're hanging from, you have almost no side-to-side movement, but you do have front-to-back rocking movement. Not an issue IMO, just different.
3) It DOES require a specific sleeping pad/air mattress. ...I use the Exped Synmat LW.

Hope that helps.

These have always looked interesting to me but for whatever reason I've always thought they sounded like a heavy setup for any kind of backpack hunting. Any idea what the weight is on the Amok?

 

[zman]

well i will not have the above timberline problem a got the clark mark 2, just wanting to get some info on everything that goes with it

I use a clark, love it. By all means, spend a couple nights in the backyard with it before you go on a hunt. I stay real dry and warm and sleep great. Get an underquilt to stay warm. With the clark I just tie it to the trees using a half hitch on the drip rings how they recommend it. No fancy straps or anything.

 

[Llama32]

the big reason i went with the hammock is for the way better sleep than on the ground, i to am wonder the weight of everyone setup

 

[twall13]

Agreed, I sleep much better in a hammock than on the ground.

I'll list my setup.

Dutchwaregear 11' PolyD 1.4 Hammock w/stuff sack continuous loops, structural ridgeline and a Knotty Mod- 10.83 Oz
Amsteel Whoopie Slings w/Whoopie Hooks & Tree Straps- 4.44 Oz.
DIY Fronkey Style Bug net (Taken depending on time of year)- 6.78 Oz.
Hammock Gear Incubator 20* Under Quilt- 24.5 Oz.
Warbonnet Superfly Tarp including all guyouts, hardware, stuff sack, snakeskin & Ridgeline- 23.5 Oz.
I usually bring 4 stakes as well but could do without- 1.84 Oz.

Total Hammock setup (minus top quilt)- 71.89 Oz. or Just under 4.5 Lbs.

I left my top quilt out of the above numbers simply because I could use anything there (old sleeping bag, blanket, whatever). My down quilt that I actually use is one I made from a cheap Walmart down sleeping bag. I cut the hood and zippers off, reharvested the down from the hood and added an additional 4 oz. of 850 down to it. The end weight came out almost exactly the same as before I started but is now much warmer. It matches my 20* underquilt pretty well for a tested comfort rating into the mid teens temperature wise and weighs 28.71 Oz. I know I could buy lighter but I put that thing together for less than $100 so it's pretty hard to beat for what it is.

If I'm using this setup in warmer temperatures I also have a summer set of quilts from Wilderness Logics that are rated to 45*. That 3/4 length underquilt and top quilt have a combined weight of 27 Oz. I don't typically take those on backpack hunts cause I frequently see temps lower than 45* but when I do take them it saves over 1.5 pounds off my pack weight.

I know there are places in this system where I can cut a few ounces here and there but I'm pretty happy with the way this sets up and performs for me and don't want to compromise that to save a few ounces of pack weight. I'm definitely interested in how much everyone else's hammock setups weigh for backpack hunts.

 

[Llama32]

sweet this is the info im hunting for thank you so much for your time in this, the big reason for me is that im 6'9 i will not fit in any solo tent but a hammock yes

 

[VarmintSniper30]

So the clark mark 2 can go to the ground also. What do you guys recommend for underneath insulation. Since this hammock can be setup as a bivy on the ground if needed. I mean are you basically stuck with having to us a pad then just in case you have to go to the ground with it.

 

[stuckbuck]

I'll list my setup too!
I will say, this was good for me to do this because I'm way over what I thought it weighed. It is a very comfortable setup though.

Warbonnet BBXLC hammock.
With integrated bug net, adjustable ridgeline, woopie slings with Dutch hooks, 5' tree straps and 5x5 piece of tyveck
45.5oz. = 2.84lbs.

Warbonnet Superfly tarp, included all guy out ropes (zing it) and also 10 aluminum stakes in a sea to summit stake pouch
31.3oz = 1.96lbs.

Hammock gear 20* incubator with 1oz overstuff
And
HG 20* burrow top quilt
And a 2qzq underquilt protector all in a sea to summit dry bag
56.7oz = 3.55lbs

Total combined weight of 8.33 lbs!
Like I said, about 3 pounds heavier than I expected. Of course I could always do without the bugnet in the winter which would save roughly close to a pound. And during the summer I won't need the underquilt, just a light pad.



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