Gun Trusts Recommendation

[Will_m]

Another link - https://www.silencercentral.com/blog/guide-to-adding-a-trustee-to-a-gun-trust/

Nothing in this says that it would be illegal for a "responsible person" to possess the NFA item that is in the trust.

Nothing illegal as long as they have submitted all the proper paperwork. But you can’t just add them to a trust and allow them to posses the item.

Background Checks for Responsible Persons (Final Rule 41F) | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

On January 4, 2016, the Attorney General signed ATF Final Rule 41F, Machineguns, Destructive Devices and Certain Other Firearms; Background Checks for Responsible Persons of a Trust or Legal Entity With Respect To Making or Transferring a Firearm, amending the regulations regarding the making or...

www.atf.gov

 

[wesfromky]

Obviously, I am not a lawyer and all that, but that link only applies if you are adding (ie, transferring) a new item to the trust, not just adding a person to an existing trust. Read the Silencer Central post - it goes into detail about that.

 

[wesfromky]

For example - I have 3 (and counting?) Single Shot trusts from Silencer Shop. I cannot add any additional items to those trusts, but I can add responsible people to them without those people going through the background checking / fingerprinting, etc. Now, if I add prohibited people to my trust, then I can see an issue, but as long as they are not prohibited, they can be added and then have possession of my NFA items.

Edit:

But, what cannot be done is to create a trust, add a bunch of people and transfer in new NFA items without the background checks. In that case, everyone in the trust would need to have the full background/fingerprints before the new items can be transferred in.

 

[Macro]

I went with National Gun Trusts. They were quick to answer any questions I had and offer a compressed version if your planning on filing any form 1s electronically.

 

[atmat]

Between SilencerShop, GunTrustGuru, and NationalGunTrusts — does anyone know if they charge additional fees to do amendments?

I hunt with several different folks who I would anticipate adding and removing as Trustees, so trying to factor that into the cost when comparing the three websites.

 

[Legend]

Bump to see if there are anymore opinions. Looking at GunTrustGuru or NationalGunTrusts.

Thanks

 

[jazz3ring]

I used GunTrustGuru earlier this year and highly recommend from my experience.

 

[HairyScandinavian]

Bump to see if there are anymore opinions. Looking at GunTrustGuru or NationalGunTrusts.

Thanks

Gun Trust Guru was written by Jim Willi, go straight to the source and get a custom trust written for your family and details. Dude definitely makes the most robust trusts and very simple to add and subtract people and such.

 

[sierracharlie338]

Jim (guntrustguru) did mine and several friends. Jim’s wife did my dad’s living trust for his property. Both are extremely knowledgeable and professional in how they handle business. Highly recommend.

 

[Kimber7man]

Between SilencerShop, GunTrustGuru, and NationalGunTrusts — does anyone know if they charge additional fees to do amendments?

I hunt with several different folks who I would anticipate adding and removing as Trustees, so trying to factor that into the cost when comparing the three websites.

Silencer Shop sent me the amendment form for my single shots. Very easy to do by yourself

 

[Mike D Texas]

Jim Willi - Guntrust guru


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[Vic vinegar]

I just use silencer shop and pay the $$$

 

[Weldor]

I did the the old original trust pre 2016, Had a lawyer that was only doing NFA trust for AZ so that all fed and stste laws were followed. Never had any issues.