Greenland - Yes or No? Where are the "we need more public land" people?

[Billinsd]

And being part of the US isn't independence...

It’s independence from Denmark.

 

[Billinsd]

Many seem fine with an Oligarchy. Imperialism seems to be the next step.

Whut? Straw man alert, straw man alert.

 

[JStol5]

Wait a minute... there might be legal precedent. Of course! Land-snatching!

Land, land... Land: see Snatch.

Ah, Haley vs. United States. Haley: 7, United States: nothing. You see, it can be done!

My favorite movie. Thank you for this!

 

[tdhanses]

If only I had the forethought to get heavily into fact checking back a decade ago - so much money I’d be buying Sako rifles by the dozen and handing them out like candy. Heck, I’d give you one.

I think folks are a lot like Ren before he was properly diagnosed.

I think I’m more shocked you know about Ren!

 

[Poser]

It’s independence from Denmark.

From what I've read, Greenland seems interested in independence, not just "independence from" Denmark and does not consider itself for sale.

 

[Forestryguy]

The Oxfam article advocates for some modified form of socialism…

• Reining in corporate power, including by breaking up monopolies and democratizing patent rules. This also means legislating for living wages, capping CEO pay, and new taxes on the super-rich and corporations, including permanent wealth and excess profit taxes. Oxfam estimates that a wealth tax on the world’s millionaires and billionaires could generate $1.8 trillion a year.
• Reinventing business. Competitive and profitable businesses don’t have to be shackled by shareholder greed. Democratically-owned businesses better equalize the proceeds of business. If just 10 percent of US businesses were employee-owned, this could double the wealth share of the poorest half of the US population, including doubling the average wealth of Black households.

It seems that history is repeating itself. Large companies and individuals holding a mass of wealth and power. This was the US before the monopolies were busted up by Roosevelt and the New Deal era.

i know the media has everyone using the term oligarch but this isnt an oligarch issue. Maybe we can leave the topic of wealth distribution in some other thread. we dont need ppl to start linking tons of articles and quotes for or against some type of conspiracy.

The current president of united states had sent his hunting enthusiast son to greenland on a diplomatic trip. That is more than enough to suggest the idea is being discussed. Hunting and fishing is not the primary reason for acquiring greenland but hunters and fisherman stand to gain large amounts of available resources and access should it happen.

I don’t think he received a very warm welcome either.

There’s good strategic reasons to want Greenland, but access to public hunting lands isn’t one of them. There’s also strong economic and ethical arguments against annexing it.

Personally I think we shouldn’t be burning bridges with NATO allies to acquire territory, but if we do end up with Greenland we’ll be really glad we did the deal in 100 years. It’s similar to how Alaska was originally “Seward’s Icebox” and a waste of money. I’d hate to be in the military if Greenland ever becomes a PCS location though.

Should work more on securing our actual borders that leak more than a sieve. We already have a foothold in Greenland for military reasons. The military just needs to be rebuilt to an effective force again that can have complete dominance and control of need be.

I may be the odd one out. I would have taken multiple PCS to Greenland vs being stuck sweltering in GA.

I find it interesting that so many people seemingly learned the word Oligarch overnight. A few years ago these same “Oligarchs” were previously known as visionaries and were gonna change the world. I wonder what happened recently that they are now so universally hated by mainstream media.

Equally interesting is the sudden disdain for conflict. When we are pouring money into ACTUAL proxy wars on multiple fronts no one bats an eye.

But the discussion of getting Greenland into the fold for security and resources has somehow turned in westward expansionism (which btw hasn’t happened in like a century) or even more ridiculous mention of invasion. Which any sane person knows isn’t on the table.

So I’ll leave you with this-
Yes if we can come to an agreement with Greenland to add them into our fold that would be incredible on many fronts. Makes a ton of sense.

Because true proxy wars are not in the main stream media or are quickly old news (Ukraine). The younger generations also grew up watching 20+ years of war and as a nation got nothing from it. They do not realize it is better to keep true war out of the country.

Why the terms such as czars and oligarchs is even used in conjunction with US politics is beyond me. We have all those Fer’s the middle finger during the Revolutionary War and every time a Communist regime was put in check.

As a nation we have more than enough things to get in order in our own home before we start taking in new territories. We don’t even really do much good for the territories we currently have (i.e. Porto Rico after hurricanes).

 

[tdhanses]

From what I've read, Greenland seems interested in independence, not just "independence from" Denmark and does not consider itself for sale.

Not what the poles there say from what I’ve seen, which are probably way more accurate with a base of 56k people. I don’t consider their government officials as speaking for the population exactly but who knows.

A territory makes sense, not a state. Greenland is too small to not be backed by a large country.

Little history

Proposals for the United States to purchase Greenland - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

A January 2025 poll of 416 people in Greenland, conducted by the U.S. survey firm Patriot Polling, found 57.3% of respondents support Greenland being acquired by the United States while 37.4% opposed.[255]

 

[NDGuy]

A January 2025 poll of 416 people in Greenland, conducted by the U.S. survey firm Patriot Polling, found 57.3% of respondents support Greenland being acquired by the United States while 37.4% opposed.[255]

Did they give them MAGA hats and give them $100 bills before polling?

Half in US say Greenland takeover a bad idea: Survey

More than half of U.S. voters in a new survey don’t support the U.S. taking over Greenland, a prospect President-elect Trump has entertained publicly in recent weeks. In the Suffolk University/USA Today survey, 53 percent of likely voters say they oppose the idea — including 86 percent of...

www.yahoo.com

MSN

Postcard from Nuuk: YouTubers and MAGA hats take over Greenland - Euractiv

A passerby overheard our Danish reporter speaking English and stopped him cold. “Are you American?” he asked.

www.euractiv.com

Don Jr’s Greenland MAGA ‘supporters’ included unhoused people who were offered free lunch, Danish press reports

Trump Jr. visited Greenland after the president-elect called for the US to purchase the island

www.aol.com

 

[tdhanses]

Did they give them MAGA hats and give them $100 bills before polling?

Half in US say Greenland takeover a bad idea: Survey

More than half of U.S. voters in a new survey don’t support the U.S. taking over Greenland, a prospect President-elect Trump has entertained publicly in recent weeks. In the Suffolk University/USA Today survey, 53 percent of likely voters say they oppose the idea — including 86 percent of...

www.yahoo.com

MSN

Postcard from Nuuk: YouTubers and MAGA hats take over Greenland - Euractiv

A passerby overheard our Danish reporter speaking English and stopped him cold. “Are you American?” he asked.

www.euractiv.com

Don Jr’s Greenland MAGA ‘supporters’ included unhoused people who were offered free lunch, Danish press reports

Trump Jr. visited Greenland after the president-elect called for the US to purchase the island

www.aol.com

possibly but it’s also possible there are some media outlets reporting incorrectly just because of Trump.

I wouldn’t think the media is being honest in their reporting at all.

 

[NDGuy]

I wouldn’t think the media is being honest in their reporting at all.

That much we can all agree with

 

[tdhanses]

That much we can all agree with

I say let Greenland’s people make the decision with a vote.

If they want to join we would happily accept them, if they don’t everything stays the same.

 

[Broomd]

The govt. of both Greenland and Denmark have come out against the idea. Move on.

Not true at all, and frankly I don't care about any of it.
Greenlanders want their independence from both the U.S. and Denmark, but it appears they very much like being allied and associated with the U.S. for a variety of reasons.

Perhaps they'll adopt a U.S. 'territory' status for the land mass, it makes great sense for all involved, except for perhaps the Dutch.

 

[NDGuy]

Not true at all, and frankly I don't care about any of it.
Greenlanders want their independence from both the U.S. and Denmark, but it appears they very much like being allied and associated with the U.S. for a variety of reasons.

Perhaps they'll adopt a U.S. 'territory' status for the land mass, it makes great sense for all involved, except for perhaps the Dutch.

 

[NRA4LIFE]

Don't you mean the Danes?

 

[CJ19]

Would be pretty amazing to see Donald J. Trump add nearly 540,000,000 acres of public land and water to the united states. That is almost DOUBLING the amount of total federal land currently available to the public. Its interesting to see the same public land advocates who claim the trump administration would sell all public land now fighting tooth and nail to prevent him from add a vast expanse of wilderness to the us public land inventory.

A lot of people were against Teddy Roosevelt at the time too i suppose. If Trump buys greenland that might put Donald J Trump and Teddy Roosevelt as the greatest conservationist presidents in us history.

 

[NDGuy]

Donald J Trump and Teddy Roosevelt as the greatest conservationist presidents in us history.

 

[TaperPin]

I think I’m more shocked you know about Ren!

*chuckle*

 

[flathead#2]

Do it!!
The East Coast Alaska.

 

[Poser]

 

[MoeFaux]

The govt. of both Greenland and Denmark have come out against the idea. Move on.

Not true at all, and frankly I don't care about any of it.
Greenlanders want their independence from both the U.S. and Denmark, but it appears they very much like being allied and associated with the U.S. for a variety of reasons.

It's definitely true of Greenland:

'We Don't Want To Be Americans', Greenland PM Says

Greenland's prime minister said Tuesday the Danish autonomous territory wanted to stake out its own future and did not want to become American, following US President Donald Trump's renewed remarks about taking control of the island.

www.barrons.com