Great YouTube featuring awesome info!

[Hnthrdr]

Super cool that @Cliff Gray has special guests on ….

 

[MattArcher2]

I get that no one gets used to recoil, but I can’t imagine being lucky enough to draw an elk tag and not taking something like a 7mm PRC or 300 PR . . . with big time terminal performance. Not sure about the bullet, but I wouldn’t take something smaller.

 

[WyldGoose]

Lol

 

[Hnthrdr]

I get that no one gets used to recoil, but I can’t imagine being lucky enough to draw an elk tag and not taking something like a 7mm PRC or 300 PR . . . with big time terminal performance. Not sure about the bullet, but I wouldn’t take something smaller.

I can imagine shooting them with a .223… but has to be at least a 6mm in Co so that’s what I’ll use for my rifle this year, if i can get an archery tag

 

[displacedtexan]

I get that no one gets used to recoil, but I can’t imagine being lucky enough to draw an elk tag and not taking something like a 7mm PRC or 300 PR . . . with big time terminal performance. Not sure about the bullet, but I wouldn’t take something smaller.

You don't have to imagine it, people do it every year.

 

[TxxAgg]

I need to watch that

 

[IronNoggin]

Absolute Hogwash.

 

[TxxAgg]

Absolute Hogwash.

Go on…

 

[jayhawk]

If you can’t handle the recoil of anything larger than a .223, then you need a new hobby…

 

[Hnthrdr]

If you can’t handle the recoil of anything larger than a .223, then you need a new hobby…

what if I prefer the recoil of .223? Still need a new hobby or nah?

 

[IronNoggin]

Go on…

Not much point. But...

Like noted above, if you are girly man enough not to be able to handle the recoil from anything more than a 223, IMO you have no business hunting.

Full Disclosure: I hunt with a variety of rifles, including 300 Weatherby Magnums, 300 Holland & Hollands, down through the 270, 25-06 etc etc.
I can easily handle the recoil from each. I am not a huge man, weighing in at 185 and standing just shy of 6 feet.
And while I do own a couple 223's, the idea of taking any large game with them is beyond ludicrous to me. Shoot the proper and effective cartridge for the game being taken. Period.

I do not care what the fools in the offered video present. There is no way in hell I would ever consider taking an elk with such a diminutive cartridge. And any that support that theory needs to shake their head - violently that is.

 

[JohnJohnson]

Full Disclosure: I hunt with a variety of rifles, including 300 Weatherby Magnums, 300 Holland & Hollands, down through the 270, 25-06 etc etc.
I can easily handle the recoil from each.

Damn, you're a real man's man. So your 10 round group sizes stay the same with the 25-06 as with the 300 WM or 300 H&H?

 

[TxxAgg]

Not much point. But...

Like noted above, if you are girly man enough not to be able to handle the recoil from anything more than a 223, IMO you have no business hunting.

Full Disclosure: I hunt with a variety of rifles, including 300 Weatherby Magnums, 300 Holland & Hollands, down through the 270, 25-06 etc etc.
I can easily handle the recoil from each. I am not a huge man, weighing in at 185 and standing just shy of 6 feet.
And while I do own a couple 223's, the idea of taking any large game with them is beyond ludicrous to me. Shoot the proper and effective cartridge for the game being taken. Period.

I do not care what the fools in the offered video present. There is no way in hell I would ever consider taking an elk with such a diminutive cartridge. And any that support that theory needs to shake their head - violently that is.

You don’t see any merit in a thread like this with picture after picture of elk, grizzlies, pigs, etc?

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Thread '.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.'

Jun 3, 2019

DON'T HAVE TIME TO READ 176 PAGES? HERE'S THE CHEAT SHEET.

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“Bullets matter more than headstamps.”

“Spent primers offer the supreme tutorial”.

I’ve read it here and elsewhere online. It got my attention. I started digging and asking questions and listened.

The 77gr TMK delivered by a .223 is where I ended up after many discussions and objective data regarding bullet performance and numerous pics of field results.

Now for the delivery system. Accurate. Repeatable. Reliable. Reasonable weight to afford steady shot placement and the ability to spot my own impacts...

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[Maverick1]

I get that no one gets used to recoil, but I can’t imagine being lucky enough to draw an elk tag and not taking something like a 7mm PRC or 300 PR . . . with big time terminal performance. Not sure about the bullet, but I wouldn’t take something smaller.

Welcome to Rokslide. Looks like you joined yesterday and this is your third post. Good luck!

 

[jayhawk]

what if I prefer the recoil of .223? Still need a new hobby or nah?

Nah you’re good. Just make sure you leave it in the truck when you get your nails done

 

[jayhawk]

You don’t see any merit in a thread like this with picture after picture of elk, grizzlies, pigs, etc?

P

Thread '.223 for bear, mountain goat, deer, elk, and moose.'

Jun 3, 2019

DON'T HAVE TIME TO READ 176 PAGES? HERE'S THE CHEAT SHEET.

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“Bullets matter more than headstamps.”

“Spent primers offer the supreme tutorial”.

I’ve read it here and elsewhere online. It got my attention. I started digging and asking questions and listened.

The 77gr TMK delivered by a .223 is where I ended up after many discussions and objective data regarding bullet performance and numerous pics of field results.

Now for the delivery system. Accurate. Repeatable. Reliable. Reasonable weight to afford steady shot placement and the ability to spot my own impacts...

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Not saying a .223 won’t work, but my grandfather killed dozens of deer during the Great Depression with a .22lr. Is that the cartridge we should be using?

At this point it’s become just another internet “look at me” trend and gets old.

 

[Hnthrdr]

Nah you’re good. Just make sure you leave it in the truck when you get your nails done

 

[Hnthrdr]

Not saying a .223 won’t work, but my grandfather killed dozens of deer during the Great Depression with a .22lr. Is that the cartridge we should be using?

At this point it’s become just another internet “look at me” trend and gets old.

I would argue 180lb deer with a .300 prc is a look at me thing, and wasteful but that’s just me. Everything in NA can be killed at reasonable distances with 6.5/ quarter bore and below centerfire rifles, projectiles over head stamps.

 

[IronNoggin]

So your 10 round group sizes stay the same with the 25-06 as with the 300 WM or 300 H&H?

I do not shoot 10 round groups with any of them.
I do shoot three round groups with all of them, often repeatedly after a brief cool down.
They, and I, ALL shoot sub MOA.

Again, anyone who condones this BS needs their heads examined.
Bravado BS touting undersized cartridges for large game is exactly that - BS.

If you are not man enough to handle a real rifleman's rifle appropriate to the size of game being pursued, take up golf.

 

[Hnthrdr]

I do not shoot 10 round groups with any of them.
I do shoot three round groups with all of them, often repeatedly after a brief cool down.
They, and I, ALL shoot sub MOA.

Again, anyone who condones this BS needs their heads examined.
Bravado BS touting undersized cartridges for large game is exactly that - BS.

If you are not man enough to handle a real rifleman's rifle appropriate to the size of game being pursued, take up golf.

Heck half the time I’m not man enough to take a riffle I shoot 800 lb elk with pointy sticks… honestly my favorite amount of recoil is shooting my bow and I do it dressed like this so come at me dawg!