Great demonstration of easy load "development"

[huntnful]

This is a solid visual of just shooting what the gun likes, not making small tweaks to try and make drastic progress on an initially sub par load.

Picks a couple bullets to hunt with, tests them 5 shots each, with 3 different powders. Picks the best one as long as it suits his desired precision/velocity goals and go shooting/hunting.

And clearly the 135 is a very consistent bullet in that barrel, and an easy choice. Just nice to see it in unedited video form.

 

[RockAndSage]

This is a solid visual of just shooting what the gun likes, not making small tweaks to try and make drastic progress on an initially sub par load.

Picks a couple bullets to hunt with, tests them 5 shots each, with 3 different powders. Picks the best one as long as it suits his desired precision/velocity goals and go shooting/hunting.

And clearly the 135 is a very consistent bullet in that barrel, and an easy choice. Just nice to see it in unedited video form.

I skipped a bit to skim, but it seems I'm seeing more and more people point out that people get way too deep into the weeds of tweaking loads. And, the tighter the velocity numbers shot to shot, the more accurate a load is in a given gun. Almost like you could predict how accurate a load would be with just a chrono?

 

[huntnful]

I skipped a bit to skim, but it seems I'm seeing more and more people point out that people get way too deep into the weeds of tweaking loads. And, the tighter the velocity numbers shot to shot, the more accurate a load is in a given gun. Almost like you could predict how accurate a load would be with just a chrono?

That’s a bit of a stretch with the velocity ES totally correlating to an accurate load. I’ve seen tight ES’s shoot like shit.

The last load he shot had a great group still and the worst ES of the whole batch.

I personally just look at group size, and if the ES/SD isn’t through the roof where it can actually cause a lot of vertical dispersion at long range, I just call it good.

I had a 1/4 MOA 5 shot group at 600 yards that I shot with my 22CM that I believe had an ES of 50FPS

 

[RockAndSage]

That’s a bit of a stretch with the velocity ES totally correlating to an accurate load. I’ve seen tight ES’s shoot like shit.

The last load he shot had a great group still and the worst ES of the whole batch.

I personally just look at group size, and if the ES/SD isn’t through the roof where it can actually cause a lot of vertical dispersion at long range, I just call it good.

I had a 1/4 MOA 5 shot group at 600 yards that I shot with my 22CM that I believe had an ES of 50FPS

Really good to know. It would be easier to count the pistol rounds I've reloaded by weight or volume, than round-count, but I've got extremely limited rifle reloading experience. Mostly just a little .223 and 30-06 around Covid, to have some ammo to shoot. But I got way, way too deep into the OCD weeds with that, and backed off, given limited time. Anything I can do to get good results without triggering that OCD deep-dive is welcome info.

 

[justin davis]

Yea seems like low ES doesn’t always correlate to the best group

 

[wind gypsy]

I dont even hardly pay attention to SD/ES anymore unless it's atrocious. Start getting to about 20 SD I'd not be fully satisfied but its fine for any distance I can ethically shoot at animals. Match guns I'll want a bit better. Good news is near anything ive ever loaded in 6.5x47 shoots single digit SDs.

Those 135 CH bergers do seem to be a very forgiving bullet.

 

[83cj-7]

This is 100% true in several loads I’ve developed.

This load had an ES of 75fps and it still shot groups like this consistently.