Well, I didn’t want to bore you with my long story, but since you asked, here it is. My first “good gun” was a Seekins Element 28 Nos. I put about 700 rounds through it; my baseline load was an MR at .33 MOA. I honestly couldn’t believe how amazing a 6lb 28 Nosler could shoot. That gun never shot a 5-shot group over 1 inch and consistently produced 10–15 round groups at 1 inch, always under 1.5 inches. I loved that gun—the great performance made me a big Seekins fan. Then one day, it just stopped shooting good groups. So, I sent it to Seekins and they ended up changing it out for a 6 Creed Element. While that was happening, I bought a 28 Nos Seekins PH2 2 for the slide. And so the story begins.
The 28 Nos was mounted with a Trijicon Tenmile in Seekins rings, along with an SRS Ti Pro all from my original 28 Nos. I started trying out loads, but nothing was shooting great. I tried 195 Berges and 180 Eldm rounds. After putting 100 rounds through, I was pretty disappointed. (See loads and data.) I even thought maybe I’d forgotten how to shoot, so I tried shooting my buddy Mike’s gun and he shot mine; we saw that the groups were consistent, around 4 inches with 10–15 round groups. This told me it was not likely the shooter—trust me, I wish it were.
data for that barrel:
I had previously tested this scope on another rifle and it functioned properly. So, I sent the gun to Seekins. After inspection, they concluded it was shooting poorly, installed a new bolt, barrel, and stock, and determined the issue was with the bedding of the stock. They sent it back to me with great customer service—included was a fantastic 3-round proof group (I had asked for a 10-round group, but they called and asked if 3 rounds would be okay as they were confident it would shoot well; I was willing to accommodate).
When I got the new gun back, I shot two 5-round groups with load IDs 2 and 3—getting 1.75 inches and 1.5 inches, respectively. For my next steps, I plan to do the following. At each shooting stage, if the 5-round group looks acceptable, I’ll shoot 5–10 more rounds to confirm. But if the 5-round group is 1.5 inches or more, I’ll stop, as it’s already unacceptable:
- Check the muzzle brake for buildup and clean it by soaking in Lemon Shine dish soap.
- Remount my Trijicon in Seekins rings.
- Shoot 5 rounds of 180 Eldm loads.
- Swap the scope to an NF scope and install new Seekins rings.
- Shoot 5 rounds of 180 Eldm loads.
- Shoot 5 rounds of 195 handloads (loaded by a friend with different brass and powder).
- Remove the muzzle brake.
- Shoot 5 rounds of 180 Eldm handloads.
The 6 Creed, SWFA 3–15, Seekins rings, factory Seekins break were all installed per the proper method. I have only tried different loads in the gun but made no hardware changes. I’m about 150 rounds in; I had a load that initially seemed good, but when retested, it was not performing well. Below is the testing:
So my plan for next steps: I’m going to:
Try a different scope
retest load ID one because it was the best so far—and what, 6 Creed can’t shoot Berges and H4350 in ADG brass???
I’ll also shoot a box of Berger box ammo.
I think the 6 creed can be made acceptable its just got a picky barrel as it has shot about 6 out 13 ,10-15 round groups under 1.5". nothing has been spectacular however.
How about you tell us info about your setups.
I am really starting the thread cause i want to learn in general what other have seen and what fixed there issues not so much to only ask for help with my issues , as i struggled thru this i thought it would be interesting forum topic. Im lucky to be surrounded by some good dues to bounce ideas off of. But ill take any good advise as well!
