Good Bear Spray/Pistol Holster setups

[Beendare]

I get and can see the bias, ......

^Gotcha. I'm just saying be careful who you listen to.

Heck, the guy you linked wrote a book on the life of one Grizz Bear in Yellowstone for criss sake. Do you really think he has YOUR best interests in mind with his recommendations?

 

[Vids]

I agree with Vids on the retention aspects of the SERPA holster and it was honestly my go to for a number of years (low price, lots of options for different guns) however there has been a number of accidental discharges in the competitive shooting world, enough that it is not allowed in most circles now. I only mention this because in a high stress environment your body will respond very different to casual range use. In the cases I mentioned above under the clock the shooters all drew there pistol while pressing on the retention release button with their trigger fingers (as is the design). Well unfortunately this can and has translated into the pistol being fired as it is drawn as your finger is already in place and pressing down where the trigger is located. I only mention this to reinforce training with the gear you choose. Be familiar with it as muscle memory will be what takes over no matter what when there isn't time to think. Be Safe.

ALW

I don't understand a couple things in your post (and admittedly I know nothing about competitive handgun shooting). On my SERPA holster there is no way for your finger to engage the trigger before the gun is fully out of the holster. Unless a shooter is inserting their trigger finger into the trigger guard as the gun clears the holster there is no chance for an accidental fire. I've always been taught from a safety perspective that your finger never goes inside the trigger guard until you are up on target. Or are you saying that the release on the holster is somehow triggering the gun to go off?

 

[alwayslookingwest]

I don't understand a couple things in your post (and admittedly I know nothing about competitive handgun shooting). On my SERPA holster there is no way for your finger to engage the trigger before the gun is fully out of the holster. Unless a shooter is inserting their trigger finger into the trigger guard as the gun clears the holster there is no chance for an accidental fire. I've always been taught from a safety perspective that your finger never goes inside the trigger guard until you are up on target. Or are you saying that the release on the holster is somehow triggering the gun to go off?

Again, I’m not trying to attack anyone’s use of gear, it’s just that that particular holster has been singled out for causing more negligent discharges and is basically universally banned in competition and by pistol trainers by the INCREASED likely hood of a problem.

Three Reasons Not to Use the Blackhawk Serpa Holster | WeaponsMan

That explains it pretty well and includes a YouTube video of a guy shooting himself in the leg..... the problem in basic terms is your pressing your trigger finger down while drawing the pistol. Once the pistol clears the holster IF you’re in a hurry, generally speaking your trigger finger is still pressing down and finds itself on the trigger. As I️ said I’m not attacking anyone’s gear choices just want those who are looking to use these to train and be aware of the possibility. Please do not take my post as an assault to anyone’s gear choices. I️ would just hate to see a bear attack compounded by a bullet hole in the leg (makes it hard to outrun your buddy.... or so the joke goes).

SERPA Holsters Should Be Discontinued - The Truth About Guns

Guns & Ammo Editor Nearly Shoots Himself Proving That Serpa Holsters Suck.

The SERPA Sucks, And That's Just All There Is To Say About It

Just please be careful and fully understand your equipment. Again not to be preachy but range shooting and and high stress (be it competition or life and death are simply different). Good luck be safe

ALW


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[DenverCountryBoy]

I used this holster on my waist belt for my Springfield XDS 45.

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[Vids]

Again, I’m not trying to attack anyone’s use of gear, it’s just that that particular holster has been singled out for causing more negligent discharges and is basically universally banned in competition and by pistol trainers by the INCREASED likely hood of a problem.

Three Reasons Not to Use the Blackhawk Serpa Holster | WeaponsMan

That explains it pretty well and includes a YouTube video of a guy shooting himself in the leg..... the problem in basic terms is your pressing your trigger finger down while drawing the pistol. Once the pistol clears the holster IF you’re in a hurry, generally speaking your trigger finger is still pressing down and finds itself on the trigger. As I️ said I’m not attacking anyone’s gear choices just want those who are looking to use these to train and be aware of the possibility. Please do not take my post as an assault to anyone’s gear choices. I️ would just hate to see a bear attack compounded by a bullet hole in the leg (makes it hard to outrun your buddy.... or so the joke goes).

SERPA Holsters Should Be Discontinued - The Truth About Guns

Guns & Ammo Editor Nearly Shoots Himself Proving That Serpa Holsters Suck.

The SERPA Sucks, And That's Just All There Is To Say About It

Just please be careful and fully understand your equipment. Again not to be preachy but range shooting and and high stress (be it competition or life and death are simply different). Good luck be safe

ALW


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No worries, I didn't take it as an attack. Just trying to understand everything you were saying. That's interesting, and I guess I could see someone in an incredible rush keeping their trigger finger pushed down on where the trigger would be. I guess I've had safety so ingrained into my actions that I instinctively pull my finger away from the gun as soon as the gun starts to release from the holster, so I never thought of making that mistake.

I actually do not keep a round in the chamber just because of the risk of an accidental fire. My thought is that if I get attacked by something I have no idea is even there, and I have to draw my gun and get a shot off in under a second I was pretty well screwed in the first place. The odds of having to defend myself in CO are remote, so I figure I'm at more risk of shooting myself in the leg than having to defend myself. If I see a bear/cat/sketchy people I draw the gun and cycle a round into the chamber. (has not happened yet).

Thanks for sharing though, maybe at some point I'll revisit my holster selection. I just didn't like any other options as they didn't seem to hold the gun in place as securely.