Glock VS. Springfield XDM in 10mm?

[rileybassman]

Awesome thanks... Yes the KKM barrels seem great... Factory spring?

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[Jesse Jaymes]

I chose the Xdm BECAUSE of the grip safety. In a chest rig, you're flagging your arms and others pretty regularly. Wanted the extra piece of mind. The non adjustable sights on Glock were a deal breaker. I will actively hunt with mine so I require the gun shoot to the sights. Ergos were way better on the Springfield as well.

Final zero. Two "cold bore" at 25.....very accurate and consistent to this day. First shot out of the rig at steel at 20...30....50....it's always DC. Settled on 180 XTPs over 13.9 AA#9

 

[Beendare]

I saw reports of the 220gr hard casts Tumbling from different sources....Hicock45 has a vid on it....so I went with the Underwood 200gr hardcast in the stock barrel. As I said earlier, 700rds and mine functions perfectly all stock.

FWIW, the KKM barrels have tighter chambers. I asked Glock about this....and you can too, their tech guys are good.

They said they don't want their chambers that tight as it can create feeding problems. They use a happy medium......opting for a pistol that works EVERY TIME with no FTF's. Mine doesn't show signs of overpressure with the 200gr hard cast or any of the factory ammo I've run through it.

Now if you overload these 10mm's....your own bullet and load....you have to look for signs of overpressure with the Glock barrels....just as you would developing any load. If you are adamant about shooting a monster load in your 10mm...the tradeoff of the higher chamber might be worth it...but realize you might possibly get some malfunctions.

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[thinhorn_AK]

Awesome thanks... Yes the KKM barrels seem great... Factory spring?

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Yes I stick with the stock spring, I've never had the need to change, I guess if I only shot the hot ammo I'd change it but now that I know the guns function fine with that ammo, I dont really shoot it anymore so everything I shoot at the range is like sig or blazer aluminum 180g ammo, no need for a different spring.

 

[Rytanfos]

Ok here's some comparison pics if it's helpful.

My sum up:

in hand ergos = XDM
shooting control-ability = Glock (feels like it handles recoil better I think due to lower bore axis)
after market = glock (but no issues getting holsters etc with the XDM)
disassembly = tie
heavy bullets = XDM (handles 220s factory, glock seems to handle 200s ok factory)
hardcast = XDM (tho keeping a clean barrel I have had 0 issues with hardcasts with the glock)
Trigger = glock - to be fair I have an after market spring, but even factory, I am not a big fan of the XDM trigger... it was much mushier

If you have newish to handguns or NOT a known glock guy - I would say XDM
If you have other glocks and know you can shoot them - I would say glock

my .02

Good comparison. I would have said glock but you have me second guessing my initial feelings. You summed it up well with your last two sentences. It really comes down to the individual here.

 

[Spoonbill]

I know this is a curveball, but Sig makes a p220 in 10mm. Right now it looks like it is just the Legion line but they have made them in a few different configurations. Of course this may be more than you want to spend but it is worth looking at.

 

[dtrkyman]

I have looked into the sig, just want a lighter weight gun for backpacking.

 

[rileybassman]

Good comparison. I would have said glock but you have me second guessing my initial feelings. You summed it up well with your last two sentences. It really comes down to the individual here.

For sure... I'm an admitted Glock guy... Really is best to try and shoot both. I just picked up an FN 509 too so I guess I'm just branching out these days lol.


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[Michael54]

The issue with the palm safety is, in the heat of the moment, are you going to have a good grip or may your hand be cocked to one side or too low. I’m sure if you shoot it enough, it won’t be much of an issue, but if you’re not well versed with that gun, you may not get that safety pressed down enough to fire, as where a Glocks trigger safety is almost impossible to not hit.


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If you have the gun in a position in your hand to where you cant deploy the safety in a Springfield you really have no business trying to pull the trigger

 

[sid_22]

Springfield is my opinion. I have both and springfield wins for me.

 

[dtrkyman]

I called the old shop, they looking for a Glock 20 in the slim frame or the xd, first come first serve for me I think!

Not much available, and it is hard to pony up full price when I normally buy guns at dealer cost!

 

[rileybassman]

I called the old shop, they looking for a Glock 20 in the slim frame or the xd, first come first serve for me I think!

Not much available, and it is hard to pony up full price when I normally buy guns at dealer cost!

where you at? I've seen a couple glock 20s this week in some local stores (NW MT)

 

[dtrkyman]

New Mexico and Illinois, go back and forth.

 

[Jsn_leonard]

where you at? I've seen a couple glock 20s this week in some local stores (NW MT)

Will they ship to an FFL in Ca?? Those guns are like unicorns right now!

 

[rileybassman]

Will they ship to an FFL in Ca?? Those guns are like unicorns right now!

Don't think so. Can't buy online from them.


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[Angus]

I’m a gen 3 fan

 

[TJ427]

Great info for 'bear guns.' We have seen more glock 10mm around various parts of Idaho in the backcountry - based upon those we can see utilizing open carry.

 

[rickyw]

Glock 20. Just works

 

[ElkArcher918]

I've been carrying an XD-M 10mm 4.5" (Underwood hardcast 200 grs. ammo) for backcountry solo hunting the last 4-5 years. Beat the crap out of it but it keeps on ticking reliably. Travels on my backpack hip holster. Forget that it's even there when bushwacking. When time allows always wipe in down and keep debris out of it. More for close moose encounters and rogue bears/big cats. Covers all my bases. No experience with Glock, not a fan of the ergo and aesthetics.

 

[ThorM465]

I'm a Marine Infantry Veteran, Mechanical Engineer by degree, System Safety Engineer by trade, and I've spent most of my career mitigating hazards in manned spaceflight.

I don't have a 10mm yet, but I do own 5 other pistols from the XD line between my Wife and myself.
I got into the xd line when I was fresh out of the Corps long before I got into my current profession. I selected the XD line primarily for three reasons: the safety features. the 1911 style grip, and the safety features. I don't understand why any pistols are still being produced without the safety built into the back of the grip. I've passed on a few because they lacked this feature. The safety feature built into the trigger is a nice addition. And I really like the mechanical chamber indicator on top of the slide, no need to unholster and pull the slide back to ensure a round is loaded.

That being said there are downsides compared to the glock. It's not as reliable in its as built state. The striker fire spring is undersized and can result in light strikes if keep compressed for prolong periods of time. I've replace that spring with a replacement from Springer precision in all of my XDs. It's a very cheap and significant upgrade. However, it does have a down size in that it makes the trigger much heavier. I've replaced my XDm triggers with light competition triggers that are the perfect weight for a carry gun when combined with the replaced heavy but reliable striker spring. I've replaced my xdses with standard weight upgraded triggers and it's still great for an EDC. This makes up ~95% of the reliability difference.