Glassing fatigue.

[Turkeygetpwnd38]

It might not be in the cards but glass quality does help a ton. I can tell a significant difference all day coues glassing between SLCs and ELs and those are both considered top end.

The difference between low end vortex and mid tier Swaro/Leica/Zeiss would be huge.

 

[ianpadron]

Not to beat a dead horse but id sell all the glass you listed to buy one alpha set of 10x42s

 

[ianpadron]

Are there any other brands or models that should be considered besides the razors in 10-12x.

Used Meostars in 10x42 or 12x50 are the top of the heap with no equal for sub $1k glass.

I've got a shelf full of flagship Zeiss and Swaro binos and still use my Meoptas frequently.

 

[elsb0048]

I can't speak to the alpha glass as I don't own any.
I did experience some headache relief moving from bottom of the barrel steiners to mid grade zeiss conquest 8x42. I think that swap is in the get 80% improvement with 20% investment range though lol.

Not sure how your athlons compare and if they're likely to contribute to your eye strain.

 

[Rodmor80]

Are the Meopta meostar B1 15x56 better than the vulture 15x56 I currently have?

 

[Rodmor80]

I do believe the athlons are the weakest link in my glasses. I spend a lot of time in them when moving around. I primarily hunt open desert and scrub. So when I'm moving around the big stuff is in the pack

 

[elsb0048]

Are the Meopta meostar B1 15x56 better than the vulture 15x56 I currently have?

I've never had eyes behind either one but very probably: Meoptas are frequently compared to Swarovski SLC for big eyes

Review: Meopta Meostar 15X56 HD Binocular - Rokslide

Meopta Meostar 15X56 HD Binocular by Matt Cashell, Rokslide Staff Most Rokslide readers know I have been using various optics from Meopta Sport Optics over the last decade. The Meopta Meostar HD 10X42 is my reference standard Western hunting binocular with its top-level optical performance...

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[RockAndSage]

OP, I'll second what everyone said about upgrading glass - consider how much you spend to directly correlate with how long you can spend behind that glass before getting fatigued. Anyone who says otherwise is either honestly ignorant or lying to themselves to feel better. And, look for used Swaro binos in the optics classifieds - a set of ELs or SLCs is better than anything you've got, and won't be too terribly bad on the wallet. A lot of guys have been selling theirs off as they upgrade to the Swaro NL Pures, so it's an excellent time to get a great deal. The first piece I'd upgrade, and the place I'd always put the most money, is the set of glass I'd spend the most time behind - the high-power binos.

The only other thing I can offer is to remember that your eyes have a lot of muscles in them - spend time building that up before the season. Even half an hour every day of practice glassing will help, even if it's just birding or looking at other wildlife. Just try to get the consistent time in, and grid inside the glass the same way you would grid off a hillside looking for muleys, so that your eye muscles are getting worked just as they would during season.

 

[Rodmor80]

OP, I'll second what everyone said about upgrading glass - consider how much you spend to directly correlate with how long you can spend behind that glass before getting fatigued. Anyone who says otherwise is either honestly ignorant or lying to themselves to feel better. And, look for used Swaro binos in the optics classifieds - a set of ELs or SLCs is better than anything you've got, and won't be too terribly bad on the wallet. A lot of guys have been selling theirs off as they upgrade to the Swaro NL Pures, so it's an excellent time to get a great deal. The first piece I'd upgrade, and the place I'd always put the most money, is the set of glass I'd spend the most time behind - the high-power binos.

The only other thing I can offer is to remember that your eyes have a lot of muscles in them - spend time building that up before the season. Even half an hour every day of practice glassing will help, even if it's just birding or looking at other wildlife. Just try to get the consistent time in, and grid inside the glass the same way you would grid off a hillside looking for muleys, so that your eye muscles are getting worked just as they would during season.

That is a great suggestion about the practice using the muscles before having to use them for long periods of time.

 

[Rodmor80]

I'll have to save a bit more to upgrade but should be able to find a pair in the next few weeks.

 

[Marble]

I have a nice carbon tripod and upgraded my fluid head this year.
Aside from swaro's, how do I know I'm getting better glass? I can't currently spend 1200-2500 on a single piece of glass. I thought about bumping from the vortex vulture hd to a pair of vortex kaibab hd's. Would that be much of a change? I think a pair of viper 10x50 or razor (pre hd)

In your case, I wouldn't waste any more money on glass until I could get the best. If you keep trying to find the one that works, you'll end up spending twice the money than if you just bought the swaros.

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[midwestcowboy]

+1 on using a phoneskope or ollin type device intermittently

 

[Buglebrush]

Upgrade to Razor UHD and get Bino Bandits

 

[Keribea]

I've never had eyes behind either one but very probably: Meoptas are frequently compared to Swarovski SLC for big eyes

Review: Meopta Meostar 15X56 HD Binocular - Rokslide

Meopta Meostar 15X56 HD Binocular by Matt Cashell, Rokslide Staff Most Rokslide readers know I have been using various optics from Meopta Sport Optics over the last decade. The Meopta Meostar HD 10X42 is my reference standard Western hunting binocular with its top-level optical performance...

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I just bought a pair of Meoptas and I really wanted to like them but the prisms are all out of wack straight from the box so I was really sad about that. I dont know if I should get them repaired or buy something else, my hunt is on the 7th so im running out of time.

 

[elsb0048]

I just bought a pair of Meoptas and I really wanted to like them but the prisms are all out of wack straight from the box so I was really sad about that. I dont know if I should get them repaired or buy something else, my hunt is on the 7th so im running out of time.

That's a bummer but some good anecdotal data point to note.

Update us if you decide to get em fixed, what sort of support meopta provides

 

[mainbeam pursuit2]

Lots of good advice given. I went through enough lower priced mediocre glass over the years to probably pay for good glass. An expensive lesson learned.

 

[JO.]

Are the Meopta meostar B1 15x56 better than the vulture 15x56 I currently have?

I have not used the 15 Meoptas but I owned the 12x50 for about 10 years and they were great. I have swaro 15s now and my Meopta's were dang close to image quality of the swaros.

One thing I have noticed is that lower quality or more affordable glass causes us to strain and our eyes suffer more. The more you magnify those imperfections in glass the more our eyes work to observe a clearer image. A cheaper pair of 8x for quick scanning can be usable for periods of time. I had a low budget spotter and on 50x was miserable to use and my eyes felt like they went 9 rounds in short order. I have yet to have that effect with high quality glass. I would be looking to upgrade the 15x so you can use both eyes. A used set of Meoptas or the Zeiss 15x would be a solid option for a noticeable upgrade. The used market on the SLC15x have seemed to drop some with the new NL 14s out now.

 

[Marble]

I have a nice carbon tripod and upgraded my fluid head this year.
Aside from swaro's, how do I know I'm getting better glass? I can't currently spend 1200-2500 on a single piece of glass. I thought about bumping from the vortex vulture hd to a pair of vortex kaibab hd's. Would that be much of a change? I think a pair of viper 10x50 or razor (pre hd)

Don't waste your money incrementally getting better glass. Just bare the discomfort until you can buy Swaros. I've seen a lot of guys waste their money trying to find the best glass, only to end up with Swaros.

The difference between the best vortex and swaro isn't even close.

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[Marble]

Hello all,
I have a question about eye fatigue from glassing. I had an eye drift fixed about a year ago, and ever since if I glass for any length of time out of any of my optics I am darn near asleep due to the fatigue. Sometimes it's in as little as an hour sometimes longer but it always happens. The optics I am carrying are usually a combination of 8x42 athlon cronus, 15x56 vortex vulture hd, and a 15-30x50or 56 leupold gold ring straight spotter. I have a tricer peg on both binos to run on my tripod like my spotter. I usually use and eye patch with the spotter. Any insight or tips and tricks to help alleviate the fatigue and stay awake. I am hunting in the mountains of southern california.
Thank you all

I would sell your 8x binos and seek the other two. Use that money to get a pair of swaro binos. You could do 15x SLCs. Sell them now, rat hole the money, add some each month until prior to scouting season.

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