Fork in the road letter

[S.Clancy]

Stepping back and trying to see the larger issue. America is entering a very bad place as it grapples with a 37 trillion dollar deficit and is racking up one trillion dollars of debt every 100 days.

We kinda have two choices. One choice is to enter a crash financial diet and try to stabilize the finances. I think that we are beginning to see that here.

The Biden/Harris approach was to keep spending money we don’t have until everything hyperinflates and blows the country up.

And these discussions are noted on Rokslide. This thread, the stock threads, and most prominently on the bitcoin threads.

My opinion (not that anybody asked) is that we’re entering a period of debt inflected pain and this thread is a small reflection of that. We might as well buckle up because it’s gonna be a wild ride

I'm fine with cost cutting etc. The issue here is all these actions are costing $$$ thru lost time, re-soliciting contracts, paying interest on payments that can't be made due to freezes, etc. Not to mention paying people for nothing and chasing away the productive employees.

 

[Fireflyfishing]

Stepping back and trying to see the larger issue. America is entering a very bad place as it grapples with a 37 trillion dollar deficit and is racking up one trillion dollars of debt every 100 days.

We kinda have two choices. One choice is to enter a crash financial diet and try to stabilize the finances. I think that we are beginning to see that here.

The Biden/Harris approach was to keep spending money we don’t have until everything hyperinflates and blows the country up.

And these discussions are noted on Rokslide. This thread, the stock threads, and most prominently on the bitcoin threads.

My opinion (not that anybody asked) is that we’re entering a period of debt inflected pain and this thread is a small reflection of that. We might as well buckle up because it’s gonna be a wild ride

Agreed.

 

[TaperPin]

Stepping back and trying to see the larger issue. America is entering a very bad place as it grapples with a 37 trillion dollar deficit and is racking up one trillion dollars of debt every 100 days.

We kinda have two choices. One choice is to enter a crash financial diet and try to stabilize the finances. I think that we are beginning to see that here.

The Biden/Harris approach was to keep spending money we don’t have until everything hyperinflates and blows the country up.

And these discussions are noted on Rokslide. This thread, the stock threads, and most prominently on the bitcoin threads.

My opinion (not that anybody asked) is that we’re entering a period of debt inflected pain and this thread is a small reflection of that. We might as well buckle up because it’s gonna be a wild

Trumps policies are very expensive to implement - there’s some new math being used to try and sell what he’s doing as low cost, while it’s just the opposite. Last time around he was proud to have his name on checks for people that get to stay home for a year. Oligarch Musk pushed hard to get the debt ceiling raised, and when it comes up again he will push even harder. I’m impressed so many people think the debt will go down, with a captain of the ship that enjoys spending money. He wants to buy Greenland! He wants huge tax cuts for the other oligarchs. Making people return to the office for no reason is expensive.

Trumps tariffs are inflationary. Deporting 1 out of every 25 people is inflationary. The Fed hasn’t dropped rates because it’s obvious inflation isn’t going down. How did Trump sell you on the idea he’s going to lower interest rates?

How can someone with a low favorability rating when he left office last time be any different this time?

Point to the place on the national debt timeline where Trump was a low spender, before during or after Covid. When he controlled both houses it didn’t effect debt spending.



When someone tells you for four years a recession is happening and America is struggling, barely a small shell of what it was, something is wrong. Point to where the recession is on the GDP numbers. How so many people believe we aren’t doing well is beyond me.

 

[Scrappy]

Let me start by saying I disagree with most fed employees, so most here will probably be triggered by what I'm about to write. Consider yourself warned

YOUR AN EMPLOYEE, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE TERMS HIT THE RESIGN BUTTON..

Got over 22 years total through the military, DOD, and now the DOI in the fish and wildlife working on a refuge.

Listened on an employee call Thursday and all they were doing is coaching those working out of the office on how to get a doctors note to stay out of the office, DISGUSTING.
I've always been an essential personal so never worked remote. My dealings with remote workers has always been frustrating. Can't get any work done when employees won't answer the phone, text ,or email..


For those at retirement age I think you would be nuts not to take this deal. In my experiences the gov has almost always over compensated on deals like this, not screwed over employees. Screw the paperwork up indeed, and make it overwhelming difficult for sure, but your getting eight months of pay for your time.

Now for the bullsheet of gov employees returning to any gov building is completely infuriating. Get your a$$ to the place your employed at....... We are getting flooded with calls from folks looking for an office, hello we don't have the budget for the extra expenses, GET YOUR YO A$$ TO YOUR OWN FACILITIES.

My hope is the whole gov system is truly overhauled and people are held to a much higher standards with strict enforcement. If your work isn't up to par then yes you will have issues with my way of thinking.

I know my way of thinking doesn't align with your average gov employees way of thinking, never has never will.

For those that are triggered now, sorry but you were warned


Ok rant over for the moment. Mods I totally understand if my statements above dont alignment with rockslide standards and I totally get it if ya remove them.
I come here for the hunting topics, I just totally got caught up in this crap this morning. Please don't ban me from here.

 

[Fireflyfishing]

For those at retirement age I think you would be nuts not to take this deal. In my experiences the gov has almost always over compensated on deals like this, not screwed over employees. Screw the paperwork up indeed, and make it overwhelming difficult for sure, but your getting eight months of pay for your time.

Is this deal legal? Where is the appropriated money? We are still under a CR.

 

[PLhunter]

Hey dude, take a deep breath and maybe a Xanax while you're at it. The sky isn't falling.

Let’s revisit this.

 

[Wrench]

Let me start by saying I disagree with most fed employees, so most here will probably be triggered by what I'm about to write. Consider yourself warned

YOUR AN EMPLOYEE, IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE TERMS HIT THE RESIGN BUTTON..

Got over 22 years total through the military, DOD, and now the DOI in the fish and wildlife working on a refuge.

Listened on an employee call Thursday and all they were doing is coaching those working out of the office on how to get a doctors note to stay out of the office, DISGUSTING.
I've always been an essential personal so never worked remote. My dealings with remote workers has always been frustrating. Can't get any work done when employees won't answer the phone, text ,or email..


For those at retirement age I think you would be nuts not to take this deal. In my experiences the gov has almost always over compensated on deals like this, not screwed over employees. Screw the paperwork up indeed, and make it overwhelming difficult for sure, but your getting eight months of pay for your time.

Now for the bullsheet of gov employees returning to any gov building is completely infuriating. Get your a$$ to the place your employed at....... We are getting flooded with calls from folks looking for an office, hello we don't have the budget for the extra expenses, GET YOUR YO A$$ TO YOUR OWN FACILITIES.

My hope is the whole gov system is truly overhauled and people are held to a much higher standards with strict enforcement. If your work isn't up to par then yes you will have issues with my way of thinking.

I know my way of thinking doesn't align with your average gov employees way of thinking, never has never will.

For those that are triggered now, sorry but you were warned


Ok rant over for the moment. Mods I totally understand if my statements above dont alignment with rockslide standards and I totally get it if ya remove them.
I come here for the hunting topics, I just totally got caught up in this crap this morning. Please don't ban me from here.

Look into the emails you were sent, if saw this behavior, report it. If someone knows you witnessed it and didn't report....I wouldn't expect sympathy from interior or above.

 

[Scrappy]

Look into the emails you were sent, if saw this behavior, report it. If someone knows you witnessed it and didn't report....I wouldn't expect sympathy from interior or above.

Actually haven't truly thought about it. Now you got me thinking.

 

[CorbLand]

Remote work is doable and sustainable but you have to hold employees accountable. That is something that government jobs don’t do, period. It’s a problem regardless of in office or remote work. Making people return to the office will not solve it.

 

[wyosam]

Why would that be relegated to only those working from home? Plenty of in office jobs that can and will be replaced by AI.

Like others have said, AI will probably just make my job easier but currently, it doesnt have the ability to problem solve to a level that would be useful. It can tell me there is a problem and then I go solve the problem.




I dont work for the Fed but I wish my job would allow me to go remote. There is zero reason for me to be in the office. I can fully complete my job sitting at home. We are currently pricing out turning our cubicles into an office. About 15000 per office to do so. Save the 15000 and just let me work from where ever.

I sat in on a lot of meetings during COVID about the push to work from home during that time. One of the biggest issues with it was employees wanting more and more for it. We were processing so many requests for internet and phone stipends. People wanting desks and chairs for both their at work office and home office. I remember sitting in a meeting and just wanting to tell these people to shut up and eat the cost of a home office. It would have been a small price to pay to maintain the work from home model. As soon as COVID subsided, it was a resounding come back to the office and the number one reason was the costs associated with allowing people to work from home.

You could save a lot of tax payer dollars by allowing people to work from home.

Yep- even a pretty nice home office doesn’t take long to offset with commuting costs.


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[wyosam]

I don't work from home, but I did have HR in our office last month putting on a training on how to tailor resumes to get through the HR nightmare. We had a couple hundred applicants for 2 position upgrades and there were 4 of us who made it through.

Sometimes it's the best liar who wins HR, but this required your supervisor to vouch for you.

HR suggested that employees use chat gpt to create resumes which will add content.

I just laughed inside.....being one of the few who were blessed in time.

I left positions where I dealt with hiring because resumes are such a joke, former employers can no longer give real feedback, and people who interview pretty well frequently end up being lousy employees anyway.


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[CorbLand]

Yep- even a pretty nice home office doesn’t take long to offset with commuting costs.


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Screw the savings to me. Let’s look at the tax payer savings.

We are building a new HR/Admin building. Bids aren’t back yet, but the last building we built similar in specs was a clean 27 million. That doesn’t include the on going maintenance costs and energy costs. We are strapped on maintenance personnel, and are looking at hiring a couple more due to three new buildings going up. Just got notification that energy prices are increasing 13% starting July 1.

That entire building will be housing people that could work 100% from home. I can’t remember the exact number but I think it’s about 100 people.

Edit to add. You could give all 100 employees an extra 2500 a year to offset the cost of a home office and the break even point on just the initial cost of the building is 108 years. At year 108, we will be looking at knocking that building down and rebuilding for the second time.

Do you want me to go into the new parking terrace that is being built so we have enough parking? Or the land that is looking at be purchased to continue building because we are running out of space?

I see the government inefficiency 40 hours a week. I am all for holding people accountable. Many in my office, including our director are completely worthless. But let’s not pretend like making people come into an office will suddenly change anything. I work 100% in the office, it’s the same thing that people complain about with remote employees.

 

[DisplacedHusky]

I left positions where I dealt with hiring because resumes are such a joke, former employers can no longer give real feedback, and people who interview pretty well frequently end up being lousy employees anyway.


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I volunteer for hiring panel interviews so lames aren’t picking lames.

 

[Ryan Avery]

Our hr department knows nothing and suggested either waiting or contacting opm.

I think it's awesome. I have a lot of coworkers who might get motivated to perform. I REEEEEEEAAAAAALY enjoy watching the daily update meetings with our regional directors where people can ask questions.

Some people are incredibly dumb. One teleworker looked to be on a porn set, another asked if this would jeopardize her position in which she makes valentine's day cards on a grant.

I know quite a few people who work for the government from home. About a third of them rip off the taxpayer, IMO, from my conversations with them. One guy has another full-time job with the city. It's fun to watch him squirm. I am sure there are quality employees who work from home, but many take advantage of the situation. There is also the argument about the cost of the facility to house these employees. This is definitely not a straightforward subject.

 

[Fireflyfishing]

One guy has another full-time job with the city. It's fun to watch him squirm.

This is a big no no where I work. I’m guessing it is for this individual as well. No sympathy for the folks breaking the rules.

 

[silasbowhunter]

Ya I seen this also. Figure a lot of people will be jumping on that.


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What are VERAs?


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[S.Clancy]

What are VERAs?


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Volunteer early retirement

 

[CorbLand]

I know quite a few people who work for the government from home. About a third of them rip off the taxpayer, IMO, from my conversations with them. One guy has another full-time job with the city. It's fun to watch him squirm. I am sure there are quality employees who work from home, but many take advantage of the situation. There is also the argument about the cost of the facility to house these employees. This is definitely not a straightforward subject.

Assuming job 1 is Fed? He isn’t holding two State jobs?

It is not straightforward at all but it does surprise me(not just here) how many people think it is.

I am in no way, shape or form defending government spending. It is completely out of control and reckless but let’s at least have honest discussions on what is truly costing the most tax payer money. From where I sit, it’s not employees and it’s definitely not the ability to work from home.

 

[Fireflyfishing]

What are VERAs?


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OPM will grant VERA authority to all agencies, as confusion around ‘deferred resignation’ program continues

With just one week before the deadline, many federal workers are still unclear whether they can trust the Trump administration’s offer, or if they are even eligible for it.

www.govexec.com

 

[ncstewart]

What are VERAs?


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Early retirement. They just let ya retire before the early retirement mark. So if you close to retirement they can be a good opportunity for people while letting the government downsize


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