Ford Vs Dodge Half Tons

[Taudisio]

Have you not seen the lifter failures, transmission failures, engine oil BS and electronic failures of the Chevy/GM trucks?


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Negative, not in person. All 4 are between 70k-90k miles. The one I drive has had the only issue, one of the pulleys started squeaking, repaired same day with a new one. Based on everyone else’s experiences, I’d say at least one is due for a major issue. I’ll be sure to vent my frustration here if it happens.

 

[ryanator86]

First off, Dodge is not the answer. Those trucks are absolute garbage (brand new ones). They are sitting on several years worth of inventory across all of Ram, which is why they are releasing the 10 year 100k mile warranty. Because if they dont do something they might be in really big trouble.

Secondly, anyone telling you to avoid Ford and go Chevy or vice versa is being dishonest for one very important reason. The current brand new truck market is all junk. The Chevys are blowing engines sub 10k miles. The Fords are losing trannys. Everything and anything is going wrong with Dodge.

That being said every F150 I have driven has rode like a dream. Every Chevy I have driven I am left wondering why some people love them so much. This is just my personal experience and opinion.

If I was in a position to buy a new truck right now id bee looking at a late teens F150 with a 5.0.

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After giving up on my POS 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie (RF Hub has failed twice), I am looking at the used market too. The Gen 4 Rams were great, but the gen 5's (2019-current) have a lot of problems and Stellantis has really good lawyers to help them wiggle out of class action lawsuits. I think there were a lot of manufacturing quality control issues post covid. So disappointing to spend money on a very unreliable truck with no support from the manufacturer. I am looking at a used Gen 2 Tundra, but I might look into the F150's.

 

[Mtank79]

After giving up on my POS 2019 Ram 1500 Laramie (RF Hub has failed twice), I am looking at the used market too. The Gen 4 Rams were great, but the gen 5's (2019-current) have a lot of problems and Stellantis has really good lawyers to help them wiggle out of class action lawsuits. I think there were a lot of manufacturing quality control issues post covid. So disappointing to spend money on a very unreliable truck with no support from the manufacturer. I am looking at a used Gen 2 Tundra, but I might look into the F150's.

I just bought my 3rd rebel today. I’ve had a 19,20 & 21 all with the 5.7s. The only issue I had out of the first two was exhaust leak on the manifold. Which is on a known issue going back a lot of years. My wife & her family are Toyota people & she almost talked me into a tundra. I drove a 23 loaded up SR5 last Saturday. It’s a super nice truck but the rebel handles better & has a much smoother ride.

 

[def90]

Have a 2023 Ford Ranger and the transmission just blew out at 70k miles. I guess that’s a fairly common issue with the 10 speed automatics.

 

[JasonT]

A buddy of mine bought a 2025 ram 1500 a month ago. The next day it started making a crazy noise then died and wouldn’t start. Dealer took it back and said it was bad battery. Two days after he got it back it did it again and it was also making a weird noise when slowing down. Dealer replaced starter and transmission. Four days later, same thing, wouldn’t start. They found the exact same truck for him at another dealer. He picked that up and a few days later the motor started making noises and they are afraid they will have to replace motor! He wasn’t the only one having trouble, there were a couple other new rams in the shop with issues.
Ram, like others, is having some serious quality issues.

 

[Jaegerr]

I'm looking at buying a new truck.

I currently have 2020 F-150 and have been an F-150 guy for 15+ years.

The smoother ride of the Dodge 1500's has me intrigued with the rear suspension not having leaf springs.

I have never had mechanical issues with my Ford's, I'm just looking for a smoother ride so my back doesn't hurt when I hit a pot hole going 50 on a dirt road.

If you have had both....give me your thoughts..

I'll echo what another guy said, depending on budget maybe a raptor in all seriousness. I would maybe take your current truck to an off-road suspension shop and see what you can do with what you for a few thousand dollars if your current truck isn't having issues and potentially paid off. Rear coil over conversion, a nice set of adjustable coil overs all the way around, and some suspension tuning for your use case might check the box for you.

 

[Mtank79]

A buddy of mine bought a 2025 ram 1500 a month ago. The next day it started making a crazy noise then died and wouldn’t start. Dealer took it back and said it was bad battery. Two days after he got it back it did it again and it was also making a weird noise when slowing down. Dealer replaced starter and transmission. Four days later, same thing, wouldn’t start. They found the exact same truck for him at another dealer. He picked that up and a few days later the motor started making noises and they are afraid they will have to replace motor! He wasn’t the only one having trouble, there were a couple other new rams in the shop with issues.
Ram, like others, is having some serious quality issues.

I like my RAM’s but there’s no way in hell I’m buying a truck first year of a new motor combo. I read something about those new RAM’s melting catalytic converters.
My little sisters hubby bought a Denali ultimate with the 6.2. He got 500 miles on it & it had to go in. They told him the torque converter was bad. They called him to come get it & he legit never got out of the parking lot. They then had to replace two injectors all before 600 miles on truck that for 90k truck. When I at the dealer getting my truck a guy came in trying to trade a Tundra SR5 for a Jeep Gladiator. How bad do you hate a tundra to consider that trade?

 

[SDHNTR]

Just don’t buy a new Tundra. Worst vehicle I’ve ever owned endless QC issues. Total piece of junk not worthy of the Toyota name.

FWIW, I’m trading in my 2024 Tundra and buying an F150. Consumer Reports rated Tundra worst among 1/2 ton pickup reliability, F150 the best.

 

[Mtank79]

Just don’t buy a new Tundra. Worst vehicle I’ve ever owned endless QC issues. Total piece of junk not worthy of the Toyota name.

FWIW, I’m trading in my 2024 Tundra and buying an F150. Consumer Reports rated Tundra worst among 1/2 ton pickup reliability, F150 the best.

If you do let us know what you think. I saw a video of a guy doing the reverse of you. He said the tundra with twin turbos pulled way better than his 3.5 twin f150.

 

[SDHNTR]

If you do let us know what you think. I saw a video of a guy doing the reverse of you. He said the tundra with twin turbos pulled way better than his 3.5 twin f150.

Well aside from cheap trim, annoying shakes and rattles, brake tsb, distorted windshield, windows falling off track, and terrible wind noise… the biggest fault of the Tundra for me is an abysmal 4wd experience. It’s near useless as a hunting truck. Climbing any mild grade in 4H will quickly overheat the tranny. The solution is to put it in 4lo, which makes for a miserable driving experience. It’s a known issue with Tundras and a design oversight imo. It simply cannot handle any demand at slow speeds with the TC unlocked. I don’t tow real heavy, but I’d be terrified to tow anything with this truck up a winding mountain road at slow speeds.

 

[JeffRaines]

Lesser of the evils IMO. My point was that turbos are a generally proven technology at this point and really aren't that complicated in and of themselves. Certainly not a reason to stay away in my mind.

I turn wrenches for a living - in particular, on diesels and now both CNG and diesels in transit buses.

Turbos are fine. We rarely replace the turbos on these buses.

Have you ever seen where the engine is on a transit bus? At least ours(Gillig and MCI for those inclined) are in the rear of the coach, completely enclosed with very little airflow. These things get absolutely baked, heat cycled to no end. The drivers ride them hard and put them up wet, and yet they last.

Are they expensive to replace? Sure... just like everything else on new engines. Doesn't mean they're scary and going to break at 20k miles.

 

[DanMan]

I have a '21 f150 with v8 and a '17 ram 1500. The ram has much more power, torque, and load support. The ride is comparable between the 2 but for towing there is no comparison. My Ram has 3.92 gears which makes a big difference also.

 

[bowhuntercoop]

If you do let us know what you think. I saw a video of a guy doing the reverse of you. He said the tundra with twin turbos pulled way better than his 3.5 twin f150.

I ditched my 23 ecoboost for my 25 tundra, best half ton I’ve ever owned. Had a 17 tundra and this new gen tows sooo much better it’s not even funny. Mileage is also better then any half ton I’ve owned.

My 23 f150 had a terrible trans shift from 3-4, and ate the front band with less then 20k on it. Rear axle snapped a nut, thankfully both covered under warranty. Interior was great size and truck rode better then any Chevy and dodge I had, also better then my stock 2nd gen tundra. I put kings on that truck and it was a night and day difference.

I have a limited off road and the ride is fantastic, over 1000 miles in 4 high and trans temp never over 210. Locker in 4 low, truck goes through anything. A trac is next level. When I need shocks I will level it, throw a set of kings on it and run it.

Quality is a good as my 2nd gen I had and interior is much nicer. The power and tech and also leaps and bounds better. Couldn’t pay me to drive a new dodge. Stalantis is lost imo.

After driving the big 3 I ultimately went back to a yota, should have never left in the first place. Guys bitch about anything but imo the quality with Toyota is leaps and bounds better then the big 3. If your worried a 10yr/125 factory extended warranty is 1500 bucks. Cheap insurance for all the electronics on new cars and trucks.

My uncle owns a very large dodge dealership in pa. I’ve bought 2 Cummins over the years through him at cost. Our entire family still drive Toyotas…

 

[wind gypsy]

So it’s settled!

 

[5811]

I just can't imagine buying a truck that, when you fold up the back seats, the floor isn't flat.

Putting built in storage instead of a flat floor is so dumb it makes me angry.

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[bowhuntercoop]

I just can't imagine buying a truck that, when you fold up the back seats, the floor isn't flat.

It's so dumb it makes me angry.

That was my one complaint with the f150. No where to store shit with the seat folded up. Your just left with a giant flat floor, I don’t get it.

You could remove the storage in the tundra if you want it all flat, idk why you would imo, tools, racket straps, built in gun rack is sweet as well for truck guns. Plus all the behind the seat storage.

 

[5811]

That was my one complaint with the f150. No where to store shit with the seat folded up. Your just left with a giant flat floor, I don’t get it.

You could remove the storage in the tundra if you want it all flat, idk why you would imo, tools, racket straps, built in gun rack is sweet as well for truck guns. Plus all the behind the seat storage.

So you're the guy they put built in storage for.

I want a flat, open area to put tools and range bags and gear. I want space for my dog. I want to be able to fold the seat up and put anything I want there.

I don't want some built in floor hump or Tupperware in the way.

Stubborn old man rant over.

 

[307]

This is hilarious.

 

[5811]

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This is hilarious.

To clarify, I meant putting floor humps and storage bins in the back was dumb. Not meaning to be a total dick about people buying trucks that have them.

My apologies if it was taken the other way, I could have been much more clear.