Flying with a rifle case

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I pack my hard case to 49# and pull foam out and replace with clothes as padding. Once I had a rifle, handgun, bow, ammo, arrows, and clothes in there. You’re legal to have other stuff in there. I do pull bolts and put them inside a pair of socks so it’s easy to X-ray the guns are unloaded.
 
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So at these airports they have you unlock thr case and inspect it some where else? In anchorage you unlock it for them and are right next to them when they inspect it then you lock it back up. No one should be able to unlock the case except you.

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it depends on the airport. Probably flown with rifles out of 6 or 7 different ones.Most you open the case at the gate when checking you bags, sign the form saying it's unloaded and put it in the case and be on your way. Some gate agents will have you wait 5/10 mins in case they need you to open it. They should inspect in front of you if they do. I got into it with TSA once bc they wanted combo to inspect in the back, I said no open it right here like every other airport I've flown out of. they said no we do it in the back, I said ok I'll come to the back with you. They said no you can't it's toobusy. Ultimately I relented bc they hold all the cards after taking down TSA agent and his managers names and telling them how stupid the polcy (in a calm and composed manner) is bc the whole point of TSA site teling you to use none TSA locks is so that you are the only one opening it . But yea thats what I get for flying out of Oakland although I've flown out of there maybe 7 or 8 years ago without the same issue. That just reminded me to file a complaint although I doubt it matters.

Fwiw I take the foam out of mine but put the rifle in a soft case and then wrap with clothes.
 
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I used to do that every year on Alaska, AA and Southwest from Seattle to St. Louis for the MO deer hunt. Now I just keep a rifle at a buddies place and pick it up when I go. Never had any issues.
 

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I used to do that every year on Alaska, AA and Southwest from Seattle to St. Louis for the MO deer hunt. Now I just keep a rifle at a buddies place and pick it up when I go. Never had any issues.
I started to do just that, even then there were always many firearms and bows there I could you if I wanted.
 

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I know this wasn’t asked- but with the comment on removing the foam to add more stuff.

I have been using a SKB golf hard case. In it I can put a bow and rifle in soft cases. Or a rifle and hunting backpack (my 26” frame doesn’t fit in the overhead compartment straight and has to go sideways).

The golf case gets checked just like a rifle case- but I have more options for weight and room to add clothes or gear as the hunt dictates.
 

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TSA will take it aside and open it. They will not be as careful putting everything back. Also some airlines will measure it and may charge extra for oversize baggage, which isn't cheap. Ask me how I know.
How will TSA open it? You are the ONLY one who should have access to the key or combo. You are NOT required to use TSA locks. "Only the passenger should retain the key or combination to the lock unless TSA personnel request the key to open the firearm container to ensure compliance with TSA regulations. You may use any brand or type of lock to secure your firearm case, including TSA-recognized locks."


Each time I've flown w/firearms they were either opened and inspected in my presence or scanned in a secure room while I watched, if passed they give a thumbs up.

As for locks in each hole, the case just has to be secured and not able to be pried open. My son and I few SouthWest in March with 3 locks on our Pelican rifle cases - one on each end and one in the center - despite there being 4 holes. However, I do carry a few extra locks just in case any TSA agents don't know their rules - I know some have had locks cut off, then told they can't fly b/c no lock. Sad to say that the rules are pretty easy and clear - the variable that you can't control is the agent you get.
 
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How will TSA open it? You are the ONLY one who should have access to the key or combo. You are NOT required to use TSA locks. "Only the passenger should retain the key or combination to the lock unless TSA personnel request the key to open the firearm container to ensure compliance with TSA regulations. You may use any brand or type of lock to secure your firearm case, including TSA-recognized locks."


Each time I've flown w/firearms they were either opened and inspected in my presence or scanned in a secure room while I watched, if passed they give a thumbs up.

As for locks in each hole, the case just has to be secured and not able to be pried open. My son and I few SouthWest in March with 3 locks on our Pelican rifle cases - one on each end and one in the center - despite there being 4 holes. However, I do carry a few extra locks just in case any TSA agents don't know their rules - I know some have had locks cut off, then told they can't fly b/c no lock. Sad to say that the rules are pretty easy and clear - the variable that you can't control is the agent you get.
They have had me unlock it in front of them, then they open and inspect it then have me place my lock on it with declaration tag inside case.
 
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TSA will take it aside and open it. They will not be as careful putting everything back. Also some airlines will measure it and may charge extra for oversize baggage, which isn't cheap. Ask me how I know.
They cannot open your firearm without you there, EVER. If you used TSA locks, then bags will get “random inspections”.

If it was recently and they cut your locks I’d raise holy hell.

Some agents are still allowing guns to fly with TSA locks, but they have been cracking down.

It’s actually against federal regulations to USE a TSA lock on a firearm. It is supposed to be locks that only you have access to.

To OP- throw all your foam away, use a soft sided gun case and pack your case with clothing, pack, etc so it’s good and tight.
 

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They cannot open your firearm without you there, EVER. If you used TSA locks, then bags will get “random inspections”.

If it was recently and they cut your locks I’d raise holy hell.

Some agents are still allowing guns to fly with TSA locks, but they have been cracking down.

It’s actually against federal regulations to USE a TSA lock on a firearm. It is supposed to be locks that only you have access to.

To OP- throw all your foam away, use a soft sided gun case and pack your case with clothing, pack, etc so it’s good and tight.
When I say take it aside, I mean over to their inspection table, but still in my line of sight, no more than five feet away, I had unlock it, they simply opened and inspected it, then had me lock it. That was out of LAX, coming back from Wis. it was slightly different. It's just the way each airport does their inspections.
 

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They cannot open your firearm without you there, EVER. If you used TSA locks, then bags will get “random inspections”.

If it was recently and they cut your locks I’d raise holy hell.

Some agents are still allowing guns to fly with TSA locks, but they have been cracking down.

It’s actually against federal regulations to USE a TSA lock on a firearm. It is supposed to be locks that only you have access to.
A number of airports have TSA screening in non-public/secure areas and will not allow travelers to be present while inspecting bags. They will ask for your keys, take them in back into the secure area, open/inspect bag, lock it back up, and return keys. This process is referenced in TSA's regulations in the second to last sentence below.

Per TSA regulation, you are able to use TSA-recognized locks to secure firearms which is outlined in the last sentence below.

  • Firearms must be unloaded and locked in a hard-sided container and transported as checked baggage only. As defined by 49 CFR 1540.5 a loaded firearm has a live round of ammunition, or any component thereof, in the chamber or cylinder or in a magazine inserted in the firearm. For civil enforcement purposes, TSA also considers a firearm to be loaded when both the firearm and ammunition are accessible to the passenger. For example, if an individual has a firearm in accessible baggage and ammunition in his/her pocket, or any combination where the individual has access to both, the firearm is considered "loaded" for purposes of assessing a civil penalty. Only the passenger should retain the key or combination to the lock unless TSA personnel request the key to open the firearm container to ensure compliance with TSA regulations. You may use any brand or type of lock to secure your firearm case, including TSA-recognized locks.
 
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How about this one. I was flying out of Chicago. I had declared my firearm, which required me to open the action to show them it was not loaded, then took it to TSA inspection station. Once I was cleared to go through X-ray station, they pulled me aside and told me their sensors detected something on me. I said I had just handled my firearm as requested by ticket agent. They took me into a secure room and gave me the once over, which included testing various parts of my person with something that could detect explosives. I'm pretty sure they were showing a new agent how to perform the testing procedure. I guess it's nice to know just how sensitive their equipment is that it picked up something from me just holding the firearm.
 

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One thing that's alluded to in this thread, but where I've heard people getting dinged, is the 62" linear measurement limit (L" + H" + W" <62"). Above that you CAN get charged $200+ for oversized luggage, even if below the 50lb weight limit.

Oversized luggage measurements

US DOMESTIC AIRLINES​

AIRLINESIZE IN INCHESWEIGHT/LBS
Allegiant Air80 Linear Inches50 Pounds
Alaska Airlines62 Linear Inches50 Pounds
American Airlines62 Linear Inches50 Pounds
Delta Airlines62 Linear Inches50 Pounds
Frontier Airlines62 Linear Inches40 Pounds
Hawaiian Airlines62 Linear Inches50 Pounds
JetBlue Airways62 Linear Inches50 Pounds
Southwest Airlines62 Linear Inches50 Pounds
Spirit Airlines62 Linear Inches40 Pounds
Sun Country Airlines62 Linear Inches50 Pounds
United Airlines62 Linear Inches50 Pounds

Seems to vary by airlines how much the 62" rule is enforced, based on what I've heard/seen (Alaska and Southwest seem to be pretty cool about it, United and American less so, and Delta somewhere in between).

For example, the SKB double bow case (I have one), actually falls into oversized luggage, and I should have to pay a fee each way. My bypass has been to use miles to upgrade, where the free bag included increases the likelihood of the gate agent looking the other way.

Just an FYI...

ETA: Here's United's specific page on Firearms under the Sporting Equipment page:

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Traveling with sports equipment​

You can fly with most sports equipment. The equipment counts toward your checked bag allowance and may be subject to fees. Use the tool below to learn more about flying with specific equipment.
Select your sport
CategoriesArcheryBaseballBikingBoating and surfingBowlingCampingFencing and kendoFirearmsFishingGolfGymnasticsHang glidingHockey and lacrosseJavelinsPaintballParachutes and parasailsPole vaultingPool cuesScubaSkatingSkiing and snowboardingTennis


Firearms​

You can travel with firearms and ammunition if they’re in checked bags, secure and declared. Visit our flying with firearms and ammunition page to see what regulations you need to follow.

Related links​





  • Sports equipment policy​

    Checked bag fees apply to all sports equipment unless otherwise noted. Oversized, overweight and extra items will be subject to additional fees unless otherwise noted.
    We aren’t liable for damage to sports equipment.
    We aren’t required to provide assistance or information to you relating to firearms regulations. We also aren’t responsible for your compliance with those laws, or for the consequences resulting from your failure to comply with such regulations or laws.
    ****************************


    So, even though firearms count as "sporting equipment", as I read the language here, they're still preserving the option to upcharge you for oversized luggage. The page for archery is almost identical. Hence why it's such a murky area....

    Someone else posted some really key pointers, which included:

  • Have printouts of the airlines' policy
  • Arrive early so you're not fumbling
  • Have case open so they can inspect it when you check in
  • Have extra locks for every lockable point, even if you don't use them
  • And above all else....1716215565387.png
 
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One thing that's alluded to in this thread, but where I've heard people getting dinged, is the 62" linear measurement limit (L" + H" + W" <62"). Above that you CAN get charged $200+ for oversized luggage, even if below the 50lb weight limit.

Oversized luggage measurements

US DOMESTIC AIRLINES​

AIRLINESIZE IN INCHESWEIGHT/LBS
Allegiant Air80 Linear Inches50 Pounds
Alaska Airlines62 Linear Inches50 Pounds
American Airlines62 Linear Inches50 Pounds
Delta Airlines62 Linear Inches50 Pounds
Frontier Airlines62 Linear Inches40 Pounds
Hawaiian Airlines62 Linear Inches50 Pounds
JetBlue Airways62 Linear Inches50 Pounds
Southwest Airlines62 Linear Inches50 Pounds
Spirit Airlines62 Linear Inches40 Pounds
Sun Country Airlines62 Linear Inches50 Pounds
United Airlines62 Linear Inches50 Pounds

Seems to vary by airlines how much the 62" rule is enforced, based on what I've heard/seen (Alaska and Southwest seem to be pretty cool about it, United and American less so, and Delta somewhere in between).

For example, the SKB double bow case (I have one), actually falls into oversized luggage, and I should have to pay a fee each way. My bypass has been to use miles to upgrade, where the free bag included increases the likelihood of the gate agent looking the other way.

Just an FYI...
I called United about that because my case is like 68LI in total and they said they consider it sporting equipment and not subject to the same oversized baggage fee. Atleast the customer service rep on the phone said that and it would only be $50.
 

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I called United about that because my case is like 68LI in total and they said they consider it sporting equipment and not subject to the same oversized baggage fee. Atleast the customer service rep on the phone said that and it would only be $50.
Funny, the minute I read your reply, I was thinking "What was their name and tel #, in case I ever get dinged?". ;)

Feels like there's an opportunity for a list of Rokslide-approved airlines, airports, and specific customer service people where if any of us got in a jam, we could reference them.
 
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Funny, the minute I read your reply, I was thinking "What was their name and tel #, in case I ever get dinged?". ;)

Feels like there's an opportunity for a list of Rokslide-approved airlines, airports, and specific customer service people where if any of us got in a jam, we could reference them.
Haha yea I should probably give them another call or book the flight through them so if I have any problems at the gate I have their info.
 

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Make certain you have a lock in place for every possible lockable spot on the case.
 
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I just posted yesterday about something similar, regarding bow cases, but highly recommend putting Apple air tags in bow/rifle cases under the foam. Ditto that EVERY lock point on the case needs a lock, you just can't put one lock.
Do you have any recommendations for non-tsa locks
 
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