I need to make a choice and it's turning out to not be an easy one. I know it would be best to have multiple shelters for different applications but if you had to pick one type for all the seasons in Montana which are you going with?
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I’ve been trying the floorless thing for awhile and I’ve gotta be honest, I’m probably gonna end up selling my tipi, nest and stove.
It’s a cool novelty, but having to fight condensation SUCKS... and it’s a fact of life where I do most of my hunting(the cascades). The pitch is fiddly, the stove is fiddly, getting the nest set is fiddly... and I like to hunt, not try to find the perfect place to set up my gear or work on making it perfect.
People rave about how much room you have in a floorless shelter, and it’s true in a sense - until you realize that without a stove the walls are covered in condensation. Pitch it up they say - yeah I tried that, still condensation. So all that room around the edges is nearly useless. Add a nest/liner they say - adding either one is just piling more weight on. A ground tarp? Same thing. More weight. At what point does it make sense to just bring a three season/double wall tent and call it good? I got one that’s a 3p that weighs about as much as the cimarron does with stakes, and it has an almost equal amount of “usable” room.
Maybe for the people who live and hunt in drier environments it makes sense...
This isn’t knocking SO in any way - the shelter and stove are well put together and quality. Just my experience.