Fishnet base layers. They work, and you want them.

[Formidilosus]

The Stubben really is great.

 

[woods89]

Don't forget the Singi Stubben!

I bought one on Form's recommendation ... still can't work out if I love it or hate it ... it's the clunkiest sexy backpack, and has no hip belt or airflow in the back, but is still somehow comfortable.

The chair concept appears goofy, but I just sat on it all through a two-hour picnic today rather than a dodgy park bench, and felt like royalty.

I was tempted to start a thread just to make sense of it, it's so counter-intuitive.

Sometimes, Form, I think you just like messin' with us.

Until what you say works. Every time.

Buzzard.

Start a thread, seriously.

It would be a welcome diversion from the same stuff getting rehashed over and over again......

 

[Hthunter]

I used the fishnet baselayer skiiing at Beavercreak this past week and it was great. Almost too much. I ended up taking off layers each day. Temps were 20 and below with non stop snow and wind. The last day I wore fishnet base, cotton t shirt and wind/waterproof shell and I was very comfortable. If your active this is definitely a game changer. I’ll have to wait to try it with still hunting.

 

[txtransplant]

You guys are killing me. Every time I think I've finalized my layering system, I find some thread like this that makes me want to flip a desk and start over!

Interested to hear any feedback about how this might work into my current plan. We're talking mid October through late November in Colorado.

Before reading this thread, I had planned:

• Sitka Core Lightweight Hoody (baselayer)
• KUIU Strongfleece 280 (insulation)
• Black Diamond Alpine Start (wind shirt)

If it would be really cold, I'd just take an extra fleece layer in the middle. On the move, it would probably just be the core hoody and the BD wind shirt.

If I were to swap to Aclima Woolnet or Eberlestock Airbase for the next-to-skin layer, would I be too warm with the core hoody and BD wind shirt over the top on the move? Seems like I need that hoody to wick the sweat out of the mesh base layer. The wind shirt isn't really designed for that.

Thoughts?

 

[j33]

You guys are killing me. Every time I think I've finalized my layering system, I find some thread like this that makes me want to flip a desk and start over!

Interested to hear any feedback about how this might work into my current plan. We're talking mid October through late November in Colorado.

Before reading this thread, I had planned:

• Sitka Core Lightweight Hoody (baselayer)
• KUIU Strongfleece 280 (insulation)
• Black Diamond Alpine Start (wind shirt)

If it would be really cold, I'd just take an extra fleece layer in the middle. On the move, it would probably just be the core hoody and the BD wind shirt.

If I were to swap to Aclima Woolnet or Eberlestock Airbase for the next-to-skin layer, would I be too warm with the core hoody and BD wind shirt over the top on the move? Seems like I need that hoody to wick the sweat out of the mesh base layer. The wind shirt isn't really designed for that.

Thoughts?

I run that same windshirt over my peloton 97 awesome combo down to 20F this fall and I think I could go colder when in the move. I don’t own a SF 280, but I own a 210 and I would never run a wind shirt over that. The strongfleece isn’t breathable enough and already has some wind proof qualities built in.

I think the windshirt paired with a highly breathable fleece or active layer is the best combo.

 

[txtransplant]

I run that same windshirt over my peloton 97 awesome combo down to 20F this fall and I think I could go colder when in the move.

Anything under the Peloton 97? I think in your setup, the Peloton 97 is comparable to the Sitka Core Lightweight Hoody for what I was doing. On the move, I’d wear the core hoody and wind shirt. Stopping and cooling off, throw the Strongfleece on.

The SF 280 does look heavy, but I like a full zip, and was also attracted to its durability, wind, and water resistance so that it could act as outer layer at times. Wish they had a lighter SF full zip hoody…

Edit for clarity: I don’t own these pieces yet. Had been planning to swap to this setup from my softshell setup. Any insight into each piece is appreciated.

 

[j33]

Anything under the Peloton 97? I think in your setup, the Peloton 97 is comparable to the Sitka Core Lightweight Hoody for what I was doing. On the move, I’d wear the core hoody and wind shirt. Stopping and cooling off, throw the Strongfleece on.

The SF 280 does look heavy, but I like a full zip, and was also attracted to its durability, wind, and water resistance so that it could act as outer layer at times. Wish they had a lighter SF full zip hoody…

Edit for clarity: I don’t own these pieces yet. Had been planning to swap to this setup from my softshell setup. Any insight into each piece is appreciated.

Just a merino shirt under the 97. I think the 97 isn’t near as warm and much more breathable than a traditional fleece like the Klamath or Sitka Heavyweight hoody.
I hear ya about full zip, on my 240 it was a must have but the 97 breaths so good I don’t need a full zip to dump heat.

The strongfleece is definitely a great outlayer, love my 210 for warmer Elk hunting.

 

[woods89]

Anything under the Peloton 97? I think in your setup, the Peloton 97 is comparable to the Sitka Core Lightweight Hoody for what I was doing. On the move, I’d wear the core hoody and wind shirt. Stopping and cooling off, throw the Strongfleece on.

The SF 280 does look heavy, but I like a full zip, and was also attracted to its durability, wind, and water resistance so that it could act as outer layer at times. Wish they had a lighter SF full zip hoody…

Edit for clarity: I don’t own these pieces yet. Had been planning to swap to this setup from my softshell setup. Any insight into each piece is appreciated.

I was out this morning for a hike. 25 degrees, 15ish mph winds, cloudy. I wore the Peloton 97 as a base layer and my BD Alpine Start over. I was cold for a bit starting out, warmed up nicely after a bit, and was able to regulate perspiration easily by flipping hoods and using the zippers.
I don't think I've ever worn my 97 with anything under it. Might have to try it.

 

[jd1006]

I’m sold on the Brynje wool t-shirt I got in fishnet. Looks weird as hell, but functions awesome. Hiked in below zero weather yesterday with a pack on, and after about 30 min I was dry and the moisture was moving through my 2nd layer (nano air light hoody). No smell on the fishnet due to the 80% merino content. It’s tighter fitting, but for an active baselayer, it does the job as good as anything that I have.

 

[ljalberta]

I'm buying a few of these, not for the performance, but for the looks it'll get when bumping into people in the backcountry. Absolutely beautiful.

 

[ozyclint]

If your active this is definitely a game changer.

Did somebody say 'Gamechanger'?

 

[Dobermann]

Woop woop!

My Aclima long sleeve top arrived from Varusteleka today.

Currently have it on under the Varusteleka Sarma Merino Hoody (https://www.varusteleka.com/en/product/sarma-merino-wool-hoodie/30651) - at 350 g/m2, the Sarma is fairly warm, so not sure if I'd use this combo hiking, but the full zip would allow it to be unzipped all the way down to the pack belt ... and stationary, it's great, and the hood really helps with sun protection.

For a lighter option, I think I'll next try the Devold Nibba Merino Jacket (https://www.devold.com/en-gb/product-type/wool_jacket/nibba-man-jacket-whood/?color=421A) - @THLR recommended the Expedition, but the Nibba is only 210 g/m2, so could also be worth checking out.

Note that Devold also do mesh / fishnet merino, but the mesh continues over the shoulder area, unlike the Aclima.

 

[Dobermann]

PS For everyone who's posted about their buddies laughing in the field ... I think I could handle that more than my partner laughing at me all day ... especially at the moments when I haven't had another layer on top.

All the sledging/hazing from mates would be nothing compared to her pointing to my nipples, as if I'm wearing a string bikini in public like it's 1978 ...

 

[THLR]

@Formidilosus nailed it in the first post. Aclima is my go-to brand as well.

Here's some pics added to detail the weaves, all pictures from inside:
This is the terry weave of heavy Woolpower jacket/sweater. I use it around the house, too heavy to bring.

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This is the terry weave of Janus army shirt. Very breathable and light, doesn't cling to skin.
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This is the thin woolnet from Devold. Similar properties to a synt wicking layer plus insulation.
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This is the winter woolnet from Aclima. My go-to for sweat&cold or underneath a sun hoodie when I don't want mosquitoes to reach my skin.
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This is the double weave from Devold Expedition. This is my winter sweater combined with a woolnet. Topped with a windreaker plus shell jacket, this is all I wear even on the coldest days.
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There's more about the brands in this thread https://www.rokslide.com/forums/threads/mountain-skill-gear-picture-tip-thread.249200/page-2

 

[THLR]

@Dobermann I recomment the Expedition because of quality and I am very familiar with it, so I know exactly what it does. As pointed out in this thread, it get's warm FAST when you add layers over a woolnet.

I have very little with the zippered wool jackets, tend to find them too heavy but nice around heat in camp as they are not flammable. I've been a man on fire and not because I'm cool or skilled, so a little wary with synth (impregnation was super flammable)

 

[AttackMode]

Has anyone owned both the Eberlestock Airbase (polypro) and the Aclima Woolnet (merino)? I currently use the airbase but I'm strongly considering grabbing a set of the Woolnet just for a comparison.

 

[dingle]

Just received my set of Aclima Woolnet top and bottoms. I can attest only to the fit and build quality but both are excellent and as described. The concept is brilliant and so obvious I can't believe they aren't more common.

Thanks for the tip.

 

[jtivat]

PS For everyone who's posted about their buddies laughing in the field ... I think I could handle that more than my partner laughing at me all day ... especially at the moments when I haven't had another layer on top.

All the sledging/hazing from mates would be nothing compared to her pointing to my nipples, as if I'm wearing a string bikini in public like it's 1978 ...

Lol I can so picture this happening in my home if I got these!

 

[Dos XX]

Anyone try the Patagonia Capilene Air? It is a merino blend that is supposed to be "airy".

 

[Dobermann]

Lol I can so picture this happening in my home if I got these!

I finally decided I had to put and end to it, so every time she laughed at me, I rubbed my nipples. Laughing stopped immediately. Job done.