First Moose Hunt

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Fist of all, I want to say thank you to everyone that answered questions for a first time moose hunter. Your information was valuable and very appreciated!

My wife and i flew to anchorage on Sep 1. We spent the next day grabbing last minute items like mountain house and tags. our first two nights were at the lake front lodge which, while nice, could use some updates for the nightly cost. Otherwise, it was more than decent.

We flew out of anchorage on Sep 3 for our "remote" moose hunt and landed around 3:30 pm. From there, we packed gear via game carts (first red flag) to the river we were to hunt. After multiple trips and several hands full of blueberries we made camp on the rivers edge. The next morning we started our float down river out of the upper hills and alpine and passed a fly fishing group along the way. We stopped and scouted a few spots where we would be able to get up high and glass but there were no camp sites reasonable that didn't include extremely swift and deep water or hauling all gear up steep terrain with deadfall. So, we pressed on and found a nice gravel bar 10 miles down river. Much further than I anticipated traveling.

Sep 5 was moose opener and we started the morning sitting on the river edge raking and grunting. i did this every 30 mins until 9:30. Made coffee and had mountain house breakfast then fished. Decided to fish and caught tons of grayling as well as my wife catching a nice rainbow. Had one of the fish for lunch which was a task in itself. Starting a fire wasn't that difficult but getting a fire hot enough to burn bigger limbs was a challenge. most everything was wet or damp. Sat and called that afternoon starting around 6 pm until dark. Then off to bed.

Sep 6 was the same routine other than having a bull walk out into the river and come to about 45 yards before he saw my wife digging for her phone. He lacked the 4th brow and wasnt near wide enough but it definitely brought some excitement! fished and hunted the rest of the day.

Sep 7 repeat of day before except no moose. I will add, a 10x12 tarp is a must when wanting to sit out of the rain/wind while on a hunt. Glad I took one. Also helped to dry things out that were damp. We thought we heard cow sounds that afternoon but wasnt too sure.

Sep 8 was the same. Call all morning and nada. Again we thought we heard cow sounds and eventually discovered that they were cow sounds coming from a couple guides and their hunters. They were just up river and had moved down to set up where we were but couldnt see us or out camp. I spoke to one of them and he told us he had seen a couple bulls across the river but we needed to tie a pull line to shuttle back and forth across the river. He also told us to strictly cow call from a distance far enough off the river that the sound wouldnt be drown out by the water and we could hear. That afternoon we did exactly that after I stepped off the raft (unsecured) came up short and got water in my waders. Thankfully it wasnt much and only my base layer took on water. I climbed a tree and we were in between two beaver ponds being less than 500 yards from either. Saw plenty of moose sign including fresh droppings and heard a cow very close that afternoon towards a pond to our left.

Sep 9 hunted across river both morning and afternoon. we only went 150 or so off the river as to not stink up the area. heard the same cow but she seemed to be further up river. other than that, nada.

Sep 10 walked to the pond to the right and cow called as we were setting up. Within minutes saw paddles headed our way. he only had 3 brows on one side and two on the other and hung up at 165 yards. It was really hard to judge his width and I knew he was close so we worked to get a shot but never worked out. After the fact I zoomed in on the video and measured and he was maybe 46". glad we didnt shoot bc fish and game circled us within 3 hours in the helicopter. That would have been costly. hunted the afternoon but saw nada.

Sep 11 was repeat of call and no moose. Heard a cow towards the other waterhole but far off in the morning but no cow sound in the afternoon.

Sep 12 hunted in morning with no success or cow sounds. Packed camp and decided it was time to move down river. Roughly 2 miles down river we ran into another group of three hunters and stopped to talk. One guy was a resident and the other two were his buddies from Missouri. He had killed a bear and they had seen the second bull we passed. They were hiking a mile up above the river and glassing miles of river and had seen several cows but no bulls worth chasing. In fact, they hadn't seen many at all. This was his second year hunting that river and he killed a bull the year before. I got an idea of a spot to stop at down river and headed down river. We hit a log jamb before dark and had to camp on a tiny gravel bar before portaging around the obstacle the next morning.

Sep 13 was my 39th birthday. Spent the morning portaging the log jamb then rowed 25 miles after hearing from the hunters the day before that severe weather was coming that included lots of rain and high winds. They blew out and got dropped at a lake between the river and Iliamna and ended up seeing a shooter but never got a shot. We then passed the guided hunters 2 miles below log jamb then found walls tents with jet boats a few more miles below them... We made it to a pick up location used by another transport service by dark and set up camp with anticipation of Rainbow out of Iliamna picking us up in the morning.

Sep 14 was bad weather. plane wasnt able to fly so he sent a fishing guide from Chatna Lodge to pick us up and get us off the river due to rising water concern. They put us in a room and fed us that day as well as the next morning. The owner of the lodge purchased it 4 years ago and runs it with his wife and 3 small children. I will do a separate write up about the lodge and their hospitality but they were great people. so much so that they refused to accept any form of payment for a night of logging and food which included doing dishes.

We caught a flight to Iliamna the next morning (adding $2k to our expenses) and the picked up by or return transporter in Iliamna back to anchorage. From there we took a rent car and headed south to spend the next 5 day on the Kenai. we bear hunted one day but never saw any. fished two days and caught a ton of fish. I boated a 28" rainbow on my 6 wt fly rod and my wife put a 27" steelhead in the boat on a spinning rig.
 
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Pros: all gear preformed to expectation except the "commercial pump" given to us to inflate the raft. Unless you pressed the plunger down at a certain angle on a certain side of the pump it wouldn't push any air. almost all other gear was our own. I did have a bullet get briefly lodged in the chamber when unloading my rifle. first time that has ever happened. I went to eject the shell after several days and the casing came out but bullet stayed in. Was able to get the bullet out by racking the empty casing into the chamber hard then slamming the chamber open. all other ammo cycled just fine. Once I loaded the gun it stayed in the tent the entire time. The upper section of the river was beautiful and consisted of alpine/tundra. lots of blueberries and the fishing was great with gin clear water. and, as always, my wife being with me makes every single trip. she stayed on me about calling every 20 mins (as per the guide instruction that we talked to). By minute 23 she was on me about calling again. lol. the guide did end up putting his hunter on a 65" bull that I saw in person at Chatna lodge. I was a young kid hunting with his grandpa for a college graduation gift. the Guide said they got very lucky and just happened to stop in his bedroom the second to last day. Also, as mentioned, the gracious hospitality of the husband and wife at Chatna Lodge. Super gracious people.

The cons: I asked every question in regards to hunt pressure, number of typical hunters, etc. I even called fish and game and they said that there weren't many hunters in this area. In total, there was us two, a group of 3, as well as two guides and clients that were floating. There was also a spike camp on a ridge from most likely a cub that dropped them and no idea how many hunters in that group. Then there were the jet boats that hunted the lower half of this 30 mile section of river.... So, yeah, not freaking remote.... And the person that rented us the raft was also the person that I was getting info from. He was shocked to hear about the jet boat camp (although he has clients that go every year) even though the guides said they have been hunting in there the last 4 years or longer. I get it, it's public hunting... But shouldn't you know more about the river you send people down??? Especially that info??? It's safe to say, I won't be headed down that river any time soon. I also found out (after the fact) that I could have cut my transport cost in HALF by shipping my gear to Iliamna or flying it to Iliamna then taking a flight from there into the field.... Another detail left out from the raft guy. Even with the river coming up he was adamant that we dont go to Iliamna and stick to the original pick up point whish was another 15 miles downriver.... Makes sense after talking to the pilot flying us to Iliamna and speaking to the other group that had hunted it the year before...

I was very specific about the type of hunt we wanted/expected and never thought we would be totally alone given how it seems the number of hunters in Alaska seems to keep growing. But, I didn't expect two other float hunters (two being guided) and for sure not a drop camp. And I sure as hell didn't expect jet boat hunters on a "remote" river. So, safe to say I won't be using his services in the future. I get he can't control the hunters that are in the area, but how do you not know there have been jet boat hunters that have been on this river for 4 years....

All in all, we had a heck of an adventure as we always do. We definitely learned a lot regarding to floating and moose hunting. We also come to realize that sitting on a river bend staring at the same scenery for 6 days in a row isn't our style. lol. We defiantly want to moose hunt again but glassing and seeing the actual country we are hunting is going to be a must.
 
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Great write up and congrats for making it happen! Stinks it didn't go the way you wanted it to but it still seemed like it was a good time. The good thing about being unsuccessful is the urge to go back to make it happen!
 
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Not sure I have ever heard a cow moose call before the 15th, pretty sure you were listening to other hunters cow calls. Bummer for sure about seeing other hunters, but the days of getting dropped off on a river and seeing nobody are long gone if the river leads to or comes from a town/village.
 

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It sounds like you had a pretty good hunt. You saw several bulls and were pretty much “in the game”. It could easily have gone your way at any time. I suspect the action would be better there a week or so later into the rut. Not sure if the season would allow for that or not. As it was, at least one guide service thought enough of the area to hunt there at that time. With all the air traffic from Anchorage, I doubt it’s possible to have a floatable river nearby to oneself. It does sound like you learned a bunch and met some nice people.
 
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Great write up and congrats for making it happen! Stinks it didn't go the way you wanted it to but it still seemed like it was a good time. The good thing about being unsuccessful is the urge to go back to make it happen!

Yup. Wheels are already turning…. Just gonna be a while before my can go so I won’t be hunting moose any time soon. I just don’t think I could go shoot one without her. So, she has a caribou and I don’t…. lol. Caribou it will be!


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Not sure I have ever heard a cow moose call before the 15th, pretty sure you were listening to other hunters cow calls. Bummer for sure about seeing other hunters, but the days of getting dropped off on a river and seeing nobody are long gone if the river leads to or comes from a town/village.

100% had to have been a cow moose. No one else was around us when we heard the cow sounds once we crossed the river. The nearest group would have been 4 miles minimal from us. And both moose were unmistakable. One was super close and loud! Neither called much. Usually starting at 7:30 am and about 45 mins before dark. That was for both of them. And they would only call a few times. Usually one long call then any other calls were kind of a whiny call or short.


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It sounds like you had a pretty good hunt. You saw several bulls and were pretty much “in the game”. It could easily have gone your way at any time. I suspect the action would be better there a week or so later into the rut. Not sure if the season would allow for that or not. As it was, at least one guide service thought enough of the area to hunt there at that time. With all the air traffic from Anchorage, I doubt it’s possible to have a floatable river nearby to oneself. It does sound like you learned a bunch and met some nice people.

Yeah it was a good hunt. Not saying it wasn’t. But “you will most likely have the entire river to yourself” is a long ways from 5 groups of hunters on top of one another. lol. The guided hunters were part of the jet boat group outfit. They came in to hunt the top section. It’s a good section of river but it’s gotten more pressure and it’s probably going to keep getting more pressure per game warden comment “this area is going to be great in a about 2 years”.

I felt bad for the guided hunters hunting out of the lodge. They were renting the cabins from the fishing lodge. They had to deal with “locals” buzzing close by on jet boats knowing they were hunting there(hard to miss a guy in blaze orange on the edge of the water) as well as leaving two motor props as gifts I suppose on a beaver dam where they had hunted 2 days in a row….

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Thank you for sharing with us. Moving past the challenges and disappointments, which were real, I like how you ended your write-up..."All in all, we had a heck of an adventure as we always do. We definitely learned a lot regarding to floating and moose hunting."

I also enjoyed your recognition and gratitude for the hospitality of the young family who were the lodge owners.

It does sure sound like you had one heck of an adventure...and you did it together and made it back safely. Memories for a lifetime....that's always my most prized trophy.

The very best to you for future adventures with your wife!
 

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I think you did well for a first-time hunt as it's very difficult to know what one will be up against. I'm just ending a half century of wilderness Alaska hunts, and I often look back at the learning curve involved.

So much of Alaska hunting is about logistics and that has changed so much in 50 years. There are so many more hunters with disposable funds and so many people offering logistics to acquire your $$$$.

Every one of these wilderness experiences is another chapter in the hunter's encyclopedia. I don't think any hunter has ever completed their encyclopedia. Mother Nature and the wildlife will teach you a new lesson on every wilderness adventure.

I hope I'm around to hear of an adventure with that new youngster.
 
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Photos!! please.

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Here are some photos of the first couple of days. Didn’t take but two hours before someone found the berry patch….. lol


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