First Lite Film: "In City Limits"

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First Lite Film: "In City Limits"

I hunt in suburban NJ in very similar situations and on my best property the first time I was there I asked the landowner if there was any part of the property he didn’t want me to be and he said. “ Rick I wouldn’t care if you sat in the lounge chairs next to the pool drinking pin-a coladas. Just kill the damn things!” I shot a doe about 30 minutes later after he went in the house. He was very happy!


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I forgot to include a pic from this year on this property. This is the third largest we have seen but the other two we saw live and not on camera.

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Cool situation. That is one thing I miss about the Midwest. I could hunt every day of the season because it is easy to access deer. I could hunt before or after work because it only takes 5 min to get into a stand.

Curious if he ever uses a climber. Also, wonder if he removes the deer intact or guts them then leaves or removes the guts?
 

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lAlso, wonder if he removes the deer intact or guts them then leaves or removes the guts?

After thinking about this a little more today I was also curious how he processes the deer. Recently had a conversation with a individual who owns a piece of property that sits on some good habitat about asked why no access for hunters. Answer surprised me: Family spends a lot of time on the property hiking, riding horseback, etc....The sight of a decaying carcass was/is not pleasing.

I imagine that the properties he is hunting he would most surely have to address this issue as well.

My guess he is loading them up whole on sled and disposing guts off property.


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First Lite Film: "In City Limits"

After thinking about this a little more today I was also curious how he processes the deer. Recently had a conversation with a individual who owns a piece of property that sits on some good habitat about asked why no access for hunters. Answer surprised me: Family spends a lot of time on the property hiking, riding horseback, etc....The sight of a decaying carcass was/is not pleasing.

I imagine that the properties he is hunting he would most surely have to address this issue as well.

My guess he is loading them up whole on sled and disposing guts off property.


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On most of my NJ properties I leave the guts there. Coincidently most have a creek running through and I usually leave the pile under brush on the bank and almost always it’s gone fully within 2 days. There are a couple I take the whole carcass and gut at home and put it in contractors bags. Hate when I have to do that because it’s hard to get them in the truck by myself but it’s worth the effort.


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He uses a sled to bring the deer out on. He said in the podcast he drags them out quickly and slides the sled right into the camper shell and no one knows the difference. All discrete.


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Reminds me of a TV show a few years ago about a group of archery hunters hunting deer in Connecticut. In one episode, a deer expired on a pool cover and the owner was outside on his cell phone calling his lawyer and therapist. Grounds keeper shows up with a long hook and the guy states "you know its dead don't you" Grounds keeper got the deer off the cover and all was well. Hilarious show.
 
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Reminds me of a TV show a few years ago about a group of archery hunters hunting deer in Connecticut. In one episode, a deer expired on a pool cover and the owner was outside on his cell phone calling his lawyer and therapist. Grounds keeper shows up with a long hook and the guy states "you know its dead don't you" Grounds keeper got the deer off the cover and all was well. Hilarious show.

I saw that. It was hilarious!


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After thinking about this a little more today I was also curious how he processes the deer. Recently had a conversation with a individual who owns a piece of property that sits on some good habitat about asked why no access for hunters. Answer surprised me: Family spends a lot of time on the property hiking, riding horseback, etc....The sight of a decaying carcass was/is not pleasing.

I imagine that the properties he is hunting he would most surely have to address this issue as well.

My guess he is loading them up whole on sled and disposing guts off property.


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Leaving a carcass and leaving a gut pile are two different things. I could see how a family wouldn't want a carcass left on their property but a whitetail gut pile will disappear in hours, if not minutes.
 
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i occasionally hunt in similar situations on small properties here on the other side of VA and the most stressful part is retrieving deer. i've had to knock on doors at night and you never know the reaction you're going to get. i've had people come out and actually help me and people tell me to get lost. i usually will only hunt on a property if it has some cover that the deer will probably head for when wounded. i limit myself to high percentage 15-20 yard shots and will shoot big mechanicals. i give them a lot of time when shot to go die. the last thing you want to do is bump one.
 

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I hunt in similar situation in suburban MD. I can tell you many times its more stress than its worth. Just got back from my one spot and had kids running through the woods (posted mind you). I'm extremely careful about my shot selection because I'm worried about a deer expiring on a property where I don't have permission. Lots of antis here.
 
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My buddy and I have an urban honey hole we hunt. Discretion when departing the property is a key issue for continued access. We’ve used Christmas Tree bags to put deer in. He‘s a cop, so we’ve used a body bag. One time, he was driving his wife’s car and stuffed a buck in the trunk like it was a mob hit.

There are some really big deer, but it is not an aesthetically pleasing hunt. Garbage is strewn everywhere. Lots of traffic noise. I’ve had hunts interrupted by crazy homeless guys. There are concerns about any deer getting off the property. And we have to be certain that no one sees us leave the property with a deer. The owners do not want any nutty protesters showing up.

It is not my ideal hunt, but sometimes it’s all I’ve got.
 

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I used to hunt some suburban areas when I lived in Nashville. It was tricky and often times very unaesthetic. I limited all shots to 20 yards or less and full broadside (no quitting at all). I knew of a guy who’s family were contractors to build entire neighborhoods of suburban sprawl developments just South of the city and he had exclusive access to hunt these developments. That guy would kill absurdly huge bucks with absurd regularity.
 

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If he hunts with the group I was a part of he brings them out intact. If you were to gut them on the property you needed to bag the guts and bring them out with you.

Like someone else said below... a lot of times it isn't worth the stress. You have people that love what you are doing and then you have others that absolutely hate it and think you are killing their pets. Some of these properties are so small that you know the deer are going to go off the property. Usually when assigned a property you go out there and meet with the landowner to discuss what they are seeing, what the problem is, and what they expect from you. At that point I usually ask about the neighbors and in most cases will introduce myself to a few of the neighbors and explain what is going on. Sometimes you can pick up additional properties that way and most of the time even if they don't want you hunting they will give you permission to retrieve.

It is hard getting used to sitting in a tree listening to people talk, walk their dogs, cook their dinners, and just live their daily lives. I am pretty sure I have seen multiple instances of the husband heading off to work and the wifes boy toy showing up after he leaves... lol
 

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I've seen some big bucks in my town and have no interest in hunting them. They were going to do a deer cull with volunteer bowhunters once and I figured I'd sign up, but that was just to get a couple of extra deer for the freezer. Not for me.

Now, shooting squirrels in the backyard ... that's straight fun and it keeps them out of my garage.
 
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I grew up in that area (live in Maryland now), specifically, just about dead center between Vienna, Oakton and Reston. In 1979, my father bought 5 acres that he eventually built a nice home on. At the time, it was surrounded by other five acre lots and those were surround by 20-150 acre properties.

In the 80's, you could only shotgun hunt a parcel greater than 20 acres and only with DNR permission. Bowhunting was at that time, just about unheard of, but about to become a thing with compounds. Also, the deer herd at that time was NOTHING compared to what it is now - they were almost never seen. So for many years 10? 15? 20?, there had been almost no hunting pressure.

I bought a little three wheeler when I was about 15 and used it constantly, exploring the undeveloped woods like I was some sort of explorer, tracking fox in the snow, coming across deer tracks, but rarely seeing anything more than a distant white flag. Most of the deer I saw were those in Outdoor Life.

One day, I was rolling down our gravel road, and past an old gate to an over grown field. I glimpsed a buck out of the corner of my eye. I stopped, backed up, and sat on the three wheeler staring at the biggest buck I've seen in my life - up to that point and ever since. It must have been in the rut, because he just stood there, staring back at be, from 20 yards, for about 3-5 minutes. He eventually walked off, and I just sat there in a stupor, trying to digest what I'd just seen. In a minute or two, my dad came down the road on his way home from work. Pulled up, got out and looked at me like there was something wrong with me. I explained what'd I'd seen, but I know that he didn't quite get it.

I didn't know what had seen at the time, but learned later what a non-typical buck is. Those 3-5 minutes at close range gave me an opportunity to count, and recount, and rub my eyes, pinch myself in disbelief, and count again. 22 points. Massive, wide beams. Big grey roman nose. The thing that still strikes me today, is that while I know he was a non-typical, he didn't look it. Didn't look like a freak. Just looked like and old deer that had grown one hell of a beautiful symmetric rack. He is mythical in my mind to this day.

Over the ensuing years, large deer with incredible headgear became a common sight around the property and the population began to explode. Unfortunately my dad didn't hunt and would not let me shoot one. I know he regrets that now. Because by about 92, bowhunting was in full swing and some folks surely harvested some big bucks from that area.

I am sure that none of them were even close to that deer that I always called "monstro". I really doubt if anyone actually killed him. He probably died of old age. I'm pretty sure that had someone shot him, he would have been a P&Y or B&C buck.

I saw him once or twice again, but it was always fleeting, never like that day when I was 16 or 17. He was a giant.
 

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Another group did one of these video series in suburban Atlanta. They killed some big deer, I want to say it might have even been the state record.

Sorry about the slight derail, but I got about 5 minutes into one of the Seek One videos before I had to turn it off. They were approaching it like a tactical invasion force and I just could not get over the tool factor.

This video is in much better taste, imo.
 
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The seek one guys really need the plug pulled. Abou trhe absolute worst representation of hunters you could
Hope for. Dig a little. You’ll see.
 

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"I've been helping your neighbors euthanize some of the deer."

That is the most clever word smithing I've heard in a LONG time, too funny!
 

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Pretty awesome story, wish I could say I even was given a chance to shoot that many deer a year. I give alot of venison to friends and family but have to limit myself because thats all my family eats year round. I'd love to be able to fill their freezers instead of just a small cooler here and there, not to mention the experience to come with harvesting that many! I'd just be shooting does it I ever got that opportunity!
 
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