Once in a while you FINALLY decide on a piece of gear that is just 'the answer' for what you are looking for. I have tried these now for several months and can honestly say, for me, the Prana Zions are hands down the best pants I have tried. Forget all the 'hunting' brands, I have tried them all. Many hiking/outdoor brands, but these seem to have no downside.........if you haven't tried them, get a pair, try them out......hunting, hiking, work, in town....etc.