Federal New Cartridge

[khuber84]

So just read the 7mm back country breakdown. This case isn't even saami approved. Non brass case, that's likely running at 80k psi, chambered in nothing but short barrel savage rifles(if it ever gets saami approval) this is destined for failure.

 

[Stocky]

You really can't get higher velocity without more recoil when using the same bullet weight. Physics is physics. For every action (bullet going faster) there is a reaction (more recoil).

While mostly correct you can if you do it using significantly less powder and recoil considers the gas volume and velocity also. It would be exceptionally difficult to make this significant due to the proportion coming from the bullet compared to gas.

 

[z987k]

While mostly correct you can if you do it using significantly less powder and recoil considers the gas volume and velocity also. It would be exceptionally difficult to make this significant due to the proportion coming from the bullet compared to gas.

Depending on the powder used, 277 fury has about 20% less recoil than a 6.8W for the exact same bullet weight and velocity. I'd call that significant.

 

[Mike D Texas]

The steel case is a legit way to safely achieve higher pressure and velocity with reduced recoil.

I’ve been experimenting with the Fury hybrid case for 260AI and .308.

So far I’ve pushed a 140 grain match burner to 3236fps in a 24” barrel before blowing a soft federal 210 primer.

I’ve pushed a .308 to 3077fps with 155TMK in a 20” barrel. Extraction was still very easy at these pressures and at least on the .308 the precision was more than acceptable, maintaining sub MOA 5 shot groups while ladder testing.

 

[Axlrod]

From the CEO down to the sales force on the street, ALL companies judge their workforce based on their performance VS. last year/quarter/month/week. If you aren't "up" over previous period you will be on the way out. If a company isn't increasing sales they are dyeing. Outside of panic buying periods, companies achieve most of their yearly growth through new item introductions. Yes most new items are not needed or ultimately successful. You can only invent sliced bread once.

But new items produce revenue because many retailers will order them. This is called filling the pipeline, which is sold goods and money in the bank. And the process starts over next year. It does not matter if the new item is needed, any good, or popular on public forums. These forums do provide lots of free publicity for the new items though. So for that Federal thanks you!

 

[TaperPin]

The funny thing about business, even if this isn’t really a serious product, like they know it will never sell more than a handful of rifles, it has all of us reading and waiting in anticipation to find out more about it. Reminds me of short runs of super cars in the automotive world.

 

[wyosam]

Run 200 fps faster out of a shorter barrel. The question is whether you need or want that.

*Allegedly


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[Pharmseller]

Took awhile for most of you to accept a .223 for big game too.

.223 ain’t barely enuff for rock chucks, much less big game.




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[Stocky]

Depending on the powder used, 277 fury has about 20% less recoil than a 6.8W for the exact same bullet weight and velocity. I'd call that significant.

I was tempering expectations to not start too big a shit fight with who id responded to. I ran it in GRT and I thought it was significant but not as much as claimed. But I think I ran 65kpsi vs 75kpsi as I though saami has made them drop it from 80kpsi which isn't the case. I'll run it again at some stage.

 

[Smithb9841]

From the CEO down to the sales force on the street, ALL companies judge their workforce based on their performance VS. last year/quarter/month/week. If you aren't "up" over previous period you will be on the way out. If a company isn't increasing sales they are dyeing. Outside of panic buying periods, companies achieve most of their yearly growth through new item introductions. Yes most new items are not needed or ultimately successful. You can only invent sliced bread once.

But new items produce revenue because many retailers will order them. This is called filling the pipeline, which is sold goods and money in the bank. And the process starts over next year. It does not matter if the new item is needed, any good, or popular on public forums. These forums do provide lots of free publicity for the new items though. So for that Federal thanks you!

Careful you’re going to upset the fudd’s that think we should have stopped when the 30.06 was created

 

[letrbuck]

Can't wait for the next iterations of this revolutionary case design. I'll be eagerly waiting for the .338 or .35 backcountry so I can hunt elk!

 

[OpsMan]

This has to be a case they developed for the military (like the 277 fury) and are trying to generate some revenue to pay off the R&D they put into the case material development. Might be wrong but seems too familiar to Sigs case idea and we’ve seen how fast that’s taken off. Get the idea, not sure how practical it is esp for reloaders or overall availability.

 

[pacoalcracker]

smith..its documented there were things killed at a 1000 yards.....with a 45/90 and a ladder sight. Many things killed at that range and further with the scoped 30-06. I'm willing to bet there are plenty of people that can kill anything with an 06 at any range just as well as you can with whatever pea shooter you are hanging your hat on. The 06 is just fine. Nothing fudd about it.

 

[pacoalcracker]

always something new coming out..just be happy we still have someone wanting to innovate.

 

[tony]

I’d like to see federal put some marketing behind a round they came out with years back.
The .338 Federal
Always wanted to own one.

 

[Huntaddicted]

Looks like a lot of hype for a company that is trying to stay relevant. Looks like maybe the took a PRC and did what Nosler did with theirs...turn the 30 into a 26 and 28. If so, pretty late to the game with a 7mm and I wonder if a manufacturer will pick it up in hopes of sales.

Unless another ammo maker picks it up for some reason, don't see it going very far.

 

[Pharmseller]

always something new coming out..just be happy we still have someone wanting to innovate.

Don't conflate new with innovation.



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